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Of those affidavits that were brought to court, many of them were tossed for being hearsay (someone swore that they heard someone else say that a third party di
by not2b 6y ago
Of those affidavits that were brought to court, many of them were tossed for being hearsay (someone swore that they heard someone else say that a third party did something), or called out standard vote counting practices as being suspicious, or were otherwise irrelevant. In many cases Trump's people went to court saying "We're not alleging fraud" and instead tried to get rules changed to throw out votes in blue areas. Evidence of actual fraud wasn't brought to court. Yes, there was some voter fraud; both Pennsylvania and Georgia found two voters each (yes, 2) who cast someone else's ballot (a deceased parent in some cases). But to flip an election you'd need thousands of people committing this kind of felony.
- tedunangst 6y agoFact check: the count for PA currently stands at 3. https://www.citizensvoice.com/news/crime-emergencies/forty-fort-man-applied-for-a-ballot-for-his-deceased-mother-detectives-allege/article_ec840c70-2ccc-58f2-b187-97036d6990de.html https://www.citizensvoice.com/news/crime-emergencies/forty-f... https://www.phillyvoice.com/voter-fraud-pennsylvania-trump-election-bruce-bartman-charged-delaware-county/ https://www.phillyvoice.com/voter-fraud-pennsylvania-trump-e... https://www.dailylocal.com/news/chester-county-man-facing-trial-for-voter-fraud-says-he-was-tricked-into-voting-twice/article_7f9ca36a-55d9-11eb-9cdd-5b0928b12ee4.amp.html https://www.dailylocal.com/news/chester-county-man-facing-tr...
- not2b 6y agoThanks for the correction, but it doesn't change my point: the amount of actual fraud was too small to make a difference by four orders of magnitude.
- Maarten88 6y agoOn top of that the fraud seems to actually have been committed mostly by the side that is accusing the other side of it. Which makes sense, when you hear from your news sources that the other party is committing massive fraud, that gives some people an excuse to do so too.
- DonHopkins 6y agoWhich was Trump's original intention for claiming the other side was committing voter fraud even before 2016, to encourage his supporters to do it "too" for him. And it worked.
- physicles 6y agoI’m a Biden supporter but I would love to see some actual sources for this fraud.
- javagram 6y agoTrump told his voters to try to vote twice. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-vote/trump-encourages-supporters-to-try-to-vote-twice-sparking-uproar-idUSKBN25U0KK https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-vote/t... If anything it’s surprising that Pennsylvania only caught 3 Trump supporters trying to do it (see links in ancestor comment).