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And what happens when FireFox decides to drop this option 1-2 years into the future? I reckon they'll give time to change the email address on all the pages one

And what happens when FireFox decides to drop this option 1-2 years into the future? I reckon they'll give time to change the email address on all the pages one used it for, but still... nvm, it's in the FAQ: "What happens if Mozilla shuts down the Firefox Relay service? We will give you advance notice that you need to change the email address of any accounts that are using Relay aliases." Note that one cannot reply using this service (yet). So the whole anonymity is gone as soon as one wants to contact some service without disclosing the real address (?)

maxrovertsb 6y ago
It's nice that they are being transparent about it.
m-p-3 6y ago
> And what happens when FireFox decides to drop this option 1-2 years into the future? The same thing if any other company did it. That said, I do hope they'll offer an option to pay for more email relays which could also ensure its viability. Having 5 relays for free is nice, but I'd personally use a unique address per service.
mk89 6y ago
Just a proper email provider that offers this features. Fastmail, GMX, ...
tyingq 6y ago
I do miss Firefox Send.
- decrypt 6y ago
  Same. I have been using Tresorit Send [1] and Visée's (developer of ffsend CLI tool) Firefox Send instance [2] in the meantime. Visée is also looking for donations [3] to support hosting of that instance. [1] https://send.tresorit.com https://send.tresorit.com [2] https://send.visee.com https://send.visee.com [3] https://gitlab.com/timvisee/ffsend/-/issues/100#note_376316378 https://gitlab.com/timvisee/ffsend/-/issues/100#note_3763163...
  - PufPufPuf 6y ago
    The correct URL for the Firefox Send instance is https://send.vis.ee/ https://send.vis.ee/
  - timvisee 6y ago
    Thanks for mentioning Send and ffsend! Yeah, the instance is available at: https://send.vis.ee/ https://send.vis.ee/
- lights0123 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25524472 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25524472 is certainly not a complete replacement, but most of the time I used it locally so that would work.
- Whitecoyote 6y ago
  I miss it too, it was so convenient. I use https://transfer.sh https://transfer.sh instead.
eloisant 6y ago
I'm probably going to use it for "throw-away" email. As in, I just need to receive a link right now so the service think they have my real address, after that the alias might as well be trashed. The only thing I'm worried is that this domain will soon be blacklisted by services (especially those I don't want to give my email address to).
- josepmdc 6y ago
  For that use case you can just use a temporary email provider like temp-mail.org which are harder to blacklist since they have a lot of random domains.
  - SamuelAdams 6y ago
    Yep I often use "ten minute mail" for this too.
  - PufPufPuf 6y ago
    Firefox Relay seems easier to use, thanks to the one-click generated emails by the browser extension and the fact that the emails arrive in your actual inbox. But I agree that the domain is going to land on all the blacklists -- I hope they implement alternative domains for this reason.
groovecoder 6y ago
Howdy. I'm the tech lead on Relay. We're working on replies right now: https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/pull/770 https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/pull/770
- lecarore 6y ago
  While you're here, can you test the relay dashboard (where you can create aliases) on Firefox for Android 84.1.4 ? The scroll is incredibly sluggish, I don't know what scroll effect you added but please have a look. It's a bit unfortunate for a Mozilla service ^^ I can provide you a screen capture if needed.
  - groovecoder 6y ago
    Can you file that here so I don't forget? https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay
megous 6y ago
You usually don't need the address you registered some account with to change account email to something else. Services usually just verify you control the new email address.
r2b2 6y ago
Founder of Owl Mail [https://owlmail.io https://owlmail.io] here. It's easy for me to promise Owl Mail will not shut down without significant advanced notice (hopefully that never happens, but if it does I will provide a clear transition plan for all users). As a token of confidence, I've moved all ~150 of my online accounts (including all banking, financial, and healthcare accounts) to Owl Mail – it needs to exist for my life to operate smoothly.
- neogodless 6y ago
  From your home page I get the impression you only support having generated @owlmail.io email addresses. Is that accurate? Does your system track which online service gets which email, or do you track that yourself in a password manager?
  - r2b2 6y ago
    1. Yes, only @owlmail.io domains for now. But, Owl Mail will allow for custom domains soon. 2. An upcoming feature will enable the creation of sender 'allow' and 'deny' lists for each Owl Mail address (With default sender 'allow' lists for top sites). Currently I track my account credentials in a password manager. A browser extension is also on Owl Mail's roadmap.

maxrovertsb 6y ago

It's nice that they are being transparent about it.

m-p-3 6y ago

> And what happens when FireFox decides to drop this option 1-2 years into the future? The same thing if any other company did it. That said, I do hope they'll offer an option to pay for more email relays which could also ensure its viability. Having 5 relays for free is nice, but I'd personally use a unique address per service.

mk89 6y ago

Just a proper email provider that offers this features. Fastmail, GMX, ...

tyingq 6y ago

I do miss Firefox Send.

decrypt 6y ago
Same. I have been using Tresorit Send [1] and Visée's (developer of ffsend CLI tool) Firefox Send instance [2] in the meantime. Visée is also looking for donations [3] to support hosting of that instance. [1] https://send.tresorit.com https://send.tresorit.com [2] https://send.visee.com https://send.visee.com [3] https://gitlab.com/timvisee/ffsend/-/issues/100#note_376316378 https://gitlab.com/timvisee/ffsend/-/issues/100#note_3763163...
- PufPufPuf 6y ago
  The correct URL for the Firefox Send instance is https://send.vis.ee/ https://send.vis.ee/
- timvisee 6y ago
  Thanks for mentioning Send and ffsend! Yeah, the instance is available at: https://send.vis.ee/ https://send.vis.ee/
lights0123 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25524472 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25524472 is certainly not a complete replacement, but most of the time I used it locally so that would work.
Whitecoyote 6y ago
I miss it too, it was so convenient. I use https://transfer.sh https://transfer.sh instead.

eloisant 6y ago

I'm probably going to use it for "throw-away" email. As in, I just need to receive a link right now so the service think they have my real address, after that the alias might as well be trashed. The only thing I'm worried is that this domain will soon be blacklisted by services (especially those I don't want to give my email address to).

josepmdc 6y ago
For that use case you can just use a temporary email provider like temp-mail.org which are harder to blacklist since they have a lot of random domains.
- SamuelAdams 6y ago
  Yep I often use "ten minute mail" for this too.
- PufPufPuf 6y ago
  Firefox Relay seems easier to use, thanks to the one-click generated emails by the browser extension and the fact that the emails arrive in your actual inbox. But I agree that the domain is going to land on all the blacklists -- I hope they implement alternative domains for this reason.

groovecoder 6y ago

Howdy. I'm the tech lead on Relay. We're working on replies right now: https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/pull/770 https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/pull/770

lecarore 6y ago
While you're here, can you test the relay dashboard (where you can create aliases) on Firefox for Android 84.1.4 ? The scroll is incredibly sluggish, I don't know what scroll effect you added but please have a look. It's a bit unfortunate for a Mozilla service ^^ I can provide you a screen capture if needed.
- groovecoder 6y ago
  Can you file that here so I don't forget? https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay

megous 6y ago

You usually don't need the address you registered some account with to change account email to something else. Services usually just verify you control the new email address.

r2b2 6y ago

Founder of Owl Mail [https://owlmail.io https://owlmail.io] here. It's easy for me to promise Owl Mail will not shut down without significant advanced notice (hopefully that never happens, but if it does I will provide a clear transition plan for all users). As a token of confidence, I've moved all ~150 of my online accounts (including all banking, financial, and healthcare accounts) to Owl Mail – it needs to exist for my life to operate smoothly.

neogodless 6y ago
From your home page I get the impression you only support having generated @owlmail.io email addresses. Is that accurate? Does your system track which online service gets which email, or do you track that yourself in a password manager?
- r2b2 6y ago
  1. Yes, only @owlmail.io domains for now. But, Owl Mail will allow for custom domains soon. 2. An upcoming feature will enable the creation of sender 'allow' and 'deny' lists for each Owl Mail address (With default sender 'allow' lists for top sites). Currently I track my account credentials in a password manager. A browser extension is also on Owl Mail's roadmap.