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have you considered the scenario that taiwan would peacefully reunite with prc? what would the us do? fight?

by choonway 6y ago

pm90 6y ago
Seems unlikely considering everything that's happening in HK.
- ngcc_hk 6y ago
  Taiwan say no is sure. But china is getting not much bad news. If he can transform into a totalitarian control regime but still attract foreign money and trade ... plus a bit sanction. May be they can do Taiwan as well. It would break the balance and has a platform to launch to pacific. It showed America is just paper tiger (and Asian countries would “know”). China may try. As one of the top guys said we can lost 1 billion chinese still the second largest country on the world (in terms of population). After Korean War do not underestimate the craziness of unification (see how south be defeated and china later involved). No one want this war. But the incentives of china is still here.
eloisius 6y ago
First of all, there is no ‘reunite’ because Taiwan has never been united with the PRC. It has been governed by the Republic of China, which predates PRC by many decades, since Japan’s defeat in WWII and subsequent surrender of its colonies. A unification scenario is less likely today than it has ever been before, and grows less likely every year. Millions of Taiwanese outright reject the idea that they are part of China. A diminishing minority of waishengren that evacuated the mainland to Taiwan in 1949 are about the only people who would favor unification. Nothing wrong with considering that scenario, but as for a national referendum resulting in a peaceful unification? Chances are basically zero.
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  > First of all, there is no ‘reunite’ because Taiwan has never been united with the PRC. There is no reintegration of Taiwan into the PRC, since it has indeed never been part of it. But the term 'Chinese reunification' is the correct one, because China has indeed split over "unfinished" business in 1949. In any case, IMHO this narrative is moot when discussing peaceful reunification because I can only see this having a chance of happening after the mainland has transformed into a democracy, which would probably mean that it would not be the 'PRC' anymore.
  - eloisius 6y ago
    Taiwan hasn’t been integrated with mainland China since the Qing Dynasty. It goes further than unfinished business in 1949. Korea and Vietnam also used to be integrated with ‘China’. The Taiwanese have had plenty of time to forge their own independent culture. Democracy on the mainland or not, the people of Taiwan would benefit very little from a union with a country that has half the per capita GDP that they have.
    - mytailorisrich 6y ago
      I am trying to stick to facts and to refrain from pushing an agenda here. Taiwan was seized from China in 1895, and given back in 1945. It has remained 'China' ever since, just not part of the PRC. The people are ethnic Chinese and in fact quite a few people fled the communist forces on the mainland by moving to Taiwan, including the government itself. One example being the founder of TSMC. Another example, Foxconn's founder was born in Taiwan right after his parents fled from the mainland. I find the comparison with Korea and Vietnam factually incorrect and rather disingenuous, irrespective of what the people of Taiwan might think of reunification.
      - MangoCoffee 6y ago
        you don't have to look at the history of Taiwan. all you have to do is look at all the recent election in Taiwan. Taiwanese reject reunification.

have you considered the scenario that taiwan would peacefully reunite with prc? what would the us do? fight?

pm90 6y ago

Seems unlikely considering everything that's happening in HK.

ngcc_hk 6y ago
Taiwan say no is sure. But china is getting not much bad news. If he can transform into a totalitarian control regime but still attract foreign money and trade ... plus a bit sanction. May be they can do Taiwan as well. It would break the balance and has a platform to launch to pacific. It showed America is just paper tiger (and Asian countries would “know”). China may try. As one of the top guys said we can lost 1 billion chinese still the second largest country on the world (in terms of population). After Korean War do not underestimate the craziness of unification (see how south be defeated and china later involved). No one want this war. But the incentives of china is still here.

eloisius 6y ago

First of all, there is no ‘reunite’ because Taiwan has never been united with the PRC. It has been governed by the Republic of China, which predates PRC by many decades, since Japan’s defeat in WWII and subsequent surrender of its colonies. A unification scenario is less likely today than it has ever been before, and grows less likely every year. Millions of Taiwanese outright reject the idea that they are part of China. A diminishing minority of waishengren that evacuated the mainland to Taiwan in 1949 are about the only people who would favor unification. Nothing wrong with considering that scenario, but as for a national referendum resulting in a peaceful unification? Chances are basically zero.

mytailorisrich 6y ago
> First of all, there is no ‘reunite’ because Taiwan has never been united with the PRC. There is no reintegration of Taiwan into the PRC, since it has indeed never been part of it. But the term 'Chinese reunification' is the correct one, because China has indeed split over "unfinished" business in 1949. In any case, IMHO this narrative is moot when discussing peaceful reunification because I can only see this having a chance of happening after the mainland has transformed into a democracy, which would probably mean that it would not be the 'PRC' anymore.
- eloisius 6y ago
  Taiwan hasn’t been integrated with mainland China since the Qing Dynasty. It goes further than unfinished business in 1949. Korea and Vietnam also used to be integrated with ‘China’. The Taiwanese have had plenty of time to forge their own independent culture. Democracy on the mainland or not, the people of Taiwan would benefit very little from a union with a country that has half the per capita GDP that they have.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    I am trying to stick to facts and to refrain from pushing an agenda here. Taiwan was seized from China in 1895, and given back in 1945. It has remained 'China' ever since, just not part of the PRC. The people are ethnic Chinese and in fact quite a few people fled the communist forces on the mainland by moving to Taiwan, including the government itself. One example being the founder of TSMC. Another example, Foxconn's founder was born in Taiwan right after his parents fled from the mainland. I find the comparison with Korea and Vietnam factually incorrect and rather disingenuous, irrespective of what the people of Taiwan might think of reunification.
    - MangoCoffee 6y ago
      you don't have to look at the history of Taiwan. all you have to do is look at all the recent election in Taiwan. Taiwanese reject reunification.