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in all fairness, the original op did say "basically"... I am peering in a few different IXes in Europe for personal stuff, mostly learning, and i get Apple, Goo

in all fairness, the original op did say "basically"... I am peering in a few different IXes in Europe for personal stuff, mostly learning, and i get Apple, Google, Cloudflare, Facebook (even though i dont use them), Netflix and a lot of other places included... I do also agree about the whole "old boys club". My main ISP is Liberty Global (Virgin Media Ireland) and anyone i have talked to about getting a link with tells me its paid peering... would be handy, but too expensive... Also, they dont peer with Cloudflare direct either... Ahh well...

exikyut 6y ago
Huh, that sounds interesting. How does this peering work? Is it mostly just a bunch of intangible configuration and routing, or do you actually have equipment racked in a colo that offers peering arrangements? I'm also curious how the pricing side of things works out. Sounds like it's not that expensive...
- tiernano 6y ago
  So... It's mostly though vms from companies who run smaller educational IXes and the likes of Vultr who have bgp offerings... I have some details on https://as204994.net https://as204994.net about it. Costs are currently in around $150 per month including v4 and v6 leasing... Details of the IXes I'm in are up there too...
  - kylegordon 6y ago
    That certainly takes me back. In the early days of my career, I tinkered with BGP and VPNs amongst friends and cities, over radio and internet. The legacy lives on. https://lodge.glasgownet.com/2015/10/26/the-old-backnet/ https://lodge.glasgownet.com/2015/10/26/the-old-backnet/ https://web.archive.org/web/20050421022318/http://wiki.backnet.org/BANANA/Addresses https://web.archive.org/web/20050421022318/http://wiki.backn... We even had BGP over AX.25 for a very short while if memory serves.
    - tiernano 6y ago
      Sounds very like what dn42 does now. That's how I started with bgp... Then got my own v6 and then v4 space and ended up on the real internet. Dn42 defiantly helped in learning. This is cool that it's been around that long!
      - kylegordon 6y ago
        It does indeed! Had never heard of dn42, although I've been out of the loop with regards to this stuff for years now. Will certainly be having a look at dn42 :-)

exikyut 6y ago

Huh, that sounds interesting. How does this peering work? Is it mostly just a bunch of intangible configuration and routing, or do you actually have equipment racked in a colo that offers peering arrangements? I'm also curious how the pricing side of things works out. Sounds like it's not that expensive...

tiernano 6y ago
So... It's mostly though vms from companies who run smaller educational IXes and the likes of Vultr who have bgp offerings... I have some details on https://as204994.net https://as204994.net about it. Costs are currently in around $150 per month including v4 and v6 leasing... Details of the IXes I'm in are up there too...
- kylegordon 6y ago
  That certainly takes me back. In the early days of my career, I tinkered with BGP and VPNs amongst friends and cities, over radio and internet. The legacy lives on. https://lodge.glasgownet.com/2015/10/26/the-old-backnet/ https://lodge.glasgownet.com/2015/10/26/the-old-backnet/ https://web.archive.org/web/20050421022318/http://wiki.backnet.org/BANANA/Addresses https://web.archive.org/web/20050421022318/http://wiki.backn... We even had BGP over AX.25 for a very short while if memory serves.
  - tiernano 6y ago
    Sounds very like what dn42 does now. That's how I started with bgp... Then got my own v6 and then v4 space and ended up on the real internet. Dn42 defiantly helped in learning. This is cool that it's been around that long!
    - kylegordon 6y ago
      It does indeed! Had never heard of dn42, although I've been out of the loop with regards to this stuff for years now. Will certainly be having a look at dn42 :-)