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On the radio the other day there was a car show and they were talking about costs for battery replacements (and then it was advised to replace board computer, m

On the radio the other day there was a car show and they were talking about costs for battery replacements (and then it was advised to replace board computer, managing the batteries too) for a Tesla, I was shocked by the costs. I don't recall the exact but he was 30k+ euro lighter. I was interested in a electric car, but interest dropped significantly after hearing that. Maybe I don't know enough about cars to compare to regular gas cars maintenance costs.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago
What does ut cost to replace an engine on a BMW? Thats probably thr closest equivalent
- Multicomp 6y ago
  According to this internet anecdote, up to $10,000 or so for parts and labor which is about what I'd expect. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080401174600AAbrM6m https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080401174600A...
  - brianwawok 6y ago
    Tesla goal is to get battery replacement cost down to 4-7k. I think right now it’s 13k? So maybe a tad more than a BMW engine but falling fast.
  - aucontraire 6y ago
    Maybe back in 2011 when that was posted, if the swap was for a second hand engine out of a crashed donor car that happened to be on-hand at the independent workshop where the job was carried out. I'd wager a guess that you'd be looking at well north of $30k for putting in a brand new engine in a Tesla-bracket BMW of semi-recent vintage.
    - bsagdiyev 6y ago
      Anecdote but even back 4 or so years ago I got a similar quote (10k) to replace a BMW engine with a new crate motor at the dealership. Let’s not make assumptions.
- perryizgr8 6y ago
  The point is you'll never need to replace the engine in a BMW unless you got into an accident or something like that. EV batteries will just degrade with normal usage.
  - djaychela 6y ago
    That's simply not true - of many makes of car, but BMW in particular. There are lots of issues with combustion engines which can be fatal - look at the issues with vanos bits dropping into them, camchain failures, etc. I buy and sell cars as a side gig, and there are plenty of models which people like me would not touch with a barge pole because of issues like this - many of them German - and you'll find many for sale as spares or repairs, and find that secondhand engine supply is low (as many have blown up), and therefore expensive. Look at a diesel vauxhall insignia, for instance. Hand grenade engine, no chance of getting one secondhand (and even if it did, its got the pin pulled).
    - perryizgr8 6y ago
      I'm sure there are exceptions, but engine problems are way, way less common than the accepted degradation of batteries over their lifetime. Most car engines keep working well even after running 100-200k kms. There is no "accepted" degradation into uselessness as we have for lithium batteries.
      - djaychela 6y ago
        The same degradation happens with ICE engines - they lose power and become less efficient. And batteries which are thermally managed (ie anything but an old leaf) will have a better lifetime than a typical ICE engine -tesla easily achieve 300k miles with less than 10% range loss.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago

What does ut cost to replace an engine on a BMW? Thats probably thr closest equivalent

Multicomp 6y ago
According to this internet anecdote, up to $10,000 or so for parts and labor which is about what I'd expect. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080401174600AAbrM6m https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080401174600A...
- brianwawok 6y ago
  Tesla goal is to get battery replacement cost down to 4-7k. I think right now it’s 13k? So maybe a tad more than a BMW engine but falling fast.
- aucontraire 6y ago
  Maybe back in 2011 when that was posted, if the swap was for a second hand engine out of a crashed donor car that happened to be on-hand at the independent workshop where the job was carried out. I'd wager a guess that you'd be looking at well north of $30k for putting in a brand new engine in a Tesla-bracket BMW of semi-recent vintage.
  - bsagdiyev 6y ago
    Anecdote but even back 4 or so years ago I got a similar quote (10k) to replace a BMW engine with a new crate motor at the dealership. Let’s not make assumptions.
perryizgr8 6y ago
The point is you'll never need to replace the engine in a BMW unless you got into an accident or something like that. EV batteries will just degrade with normal usage.
- djaychela 6y ago
  That's simply not true - of many makes of car, but BMW in particular. There are lots of issues with combustion engines which can be fatal - look at the issues with vanos bits dropping into them, camchain failures, etc. I buy and sell cars as a side gig, and there are plenty of models which people like me would not touch with a barge pole because of issues like this - many of them German - and you'll find many for sale as spares or repairs, and find that secondhand engine supply is low (as many have blown up), and therefore expensive. Look at a diesel vauxhall insignia, for instance. Hand grenade engine, no chance of getting one secondhand (and even if it did, its got the pin pulled).
  - perryizgr8 6y ago
    I'm sure there are exceptions, but engine problems are way, way less common than the accepted degradation of batteries over their lifetime. Most car engines keep working well even after running 100-200k kms. There is no "accepted" degradation into uselessness as we have for lithium batteries.
    - djaychela 6y ago
      The same degradation happens with ICE engines - they lose power and become less efficient. And batteries which are thermally managed (ie anything but an old leaf) will have a better lifetime than a typical ICE engine -tesla easily achieve 300k miles with less than 10% range loss.