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Michael O'Leary will say anything to drum up press. Those comments were never plans - just free advertising. > Safety is not a priority for them beyond meeting

Michael O'Leary will say anything to drum up press. Those comments were never plans - just free advertising. > Safety is not a priority for them beyond meeting the absolute minimum requirements necessary to fly. This is absolute nonsense. Safety is paramount at Ryanair - their reputation in industry is that they have the strictest standards of any airline operating in Europe, low-cost or not. This is simply your own bias showing through. It's also ridiculous to state that a crash wouldn't impact their business.

StreamBright 6y ago
>> Safety is paramount at Ryanair - their reputation in industry is that they have the strictest standards of any airline operating in Europe, low-cost or not. Source? This shows otherwise. https://www.businessinsider.com/the-safest-airlines-in-2020-according-to-airline-ratings-2020-1#17-finnair-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/the-safest-airlines-in-2020-...
- overscore 6y ago
  That article is the same listicle from AirlineRatings shared by another poster below. AirlineRatings themselves are just a website, not any authority, but their own rating for Ryanair is equal the same "seven stars" they award to the top 10 in that list: https://www.airlineratings.com/ratings/ryanair/ https://www.airlineratings.com/ratings/ryanair/
  - StreamBright 6y ago
    So there is no other source to back up OPs claim that Rynanair the safest in Europe?
    - overscore 6y ago
      The source is their Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanair#Accidents_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanair#Accidents_and_incident... Compare this to any other airline on the "safest" list. All EU airlines are extremely safe - it's a highly regulated market. None have the record or reputation of Ryanair, especially not at the scale they operate.
      - StreamBright 6y ago
        I cannot see any comparison there. >> None have the record or reputation of Ryanair, especially not at the scale they operate. Again, source?
onion2k 6y ago
This is simply your own bias showing through. Yes. And your post is your bias showing through. That's OK though. That's how opinions work. A post on HN that isn't a strict statement of fact is always going to be affected by the posters biases. Discussion forums simply couldn't work otherwise. Saying someone is biased is not a damning indictment of how terrible they are. It just means they've been affected by, and formed opinions based on, what has happened to them. It's also ridiculous to state that a crash wouldn't impact their business. If you just ignore the "significantly" bit, sure.
- overscore 6y ago
  The idea that Ryanair don't take safety seriously isn't an opinion - it's simply wrong. Their record and policies on safety are a matter of record. > If you just ignore the "significantly" bit, sure. Okay, it's also ridiculous to state that a crash wouldn't significantly impact their business. Your comments on this are so outlandish that I wonder if they're made in good faith?
  - onion2k 6y ago
    Your comments on this are so outlandish that I wonder if they're made in good faith? I could suggest you're being paid to defend Ryanair online, but I can't imagine Ryanair paying someone to do that. They don't care about their reputation enough. Kind of like how they aren't too bothered about how it looks in the media when their planes catch fire or have to be intercepted by fighter jets.
    - vultour 6y ago
      And we could suggest you’re being paid to spread FUD about Ryanair. I hate flying with them as much as the next guy, but saying they don’t care about safety is demonstrably wrong, their safety record is one of the best around. Just because it looks like they furnished the interior at the local Lidl doesn’t mean they don’t have strict maintenance and operating procedures.

StreamBright 6y ago

>> Safety is paramount at Ryanair - their reputation in industry is that they have the strictest standards of any airline operating in Europe, low-cost or not. Source? This shows otherwise. https://www.businessinsider.com/the-safest-airlines-in-2020-according-to-airline-ratings-2020-1#17-finnair-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/the-safest-airlines-in-2020-...

overscore 6y ago
That article is the same listicle from AirlineRatings shared by another poster below. AirlineRatings themselves are just a website, not any authority, but their own rating for Ryanair is equal the same "seven stars" they award to the top 10 in that list: https://www.airlineratings.com/ratings/ryanair/ https://www.airlineratings.com/ratings/ryanair/
- StreamBright 6y ago
  So there is no other source to back up OPs claim that Rynanair the safest in Europe?
  - overscore 6y ago
    The source is their Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanair#Accidents_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanair#Accidents_and_incident... Compare this to any other airline on the "safest" list. All EU airlines are extremely safe - it's a highly regulated market. None have the record or reputation of Ryanair, especially not at the scale they operate.
    - StreamBright 6y ago
      I cannot see any comparison there. >> None have the record or reputation of Ryanair, especially not at the scale they operate. Again, source?

onion2k 6y ago

This is simply your own bias showing through. Yes. And your post is your bias showing through. That's OK though. That's how opinions work. A post on HN that isn't a strict statement of fact is always going to be affected by the posters biases. Discussion forums simply couldn't work otherwise. Saying someone is biased is not a damning indictment of how terrible they are. It just means they've been affected by, and formed opinions based on, what has happened to them. It's also ridiculous to state that a crash wouldn't impact their business. If you just ignore the "significantly" bit, sure.

overscore 6y ago
The idea that Ryanair don't take safety seriously isn't an opinion - it's simply wrong. Their record and policies on safety are a matter of record. > If you just ignore the "significantly" bit, sure. Okay, it's also ridiculous to state that a crash wouldn't significantly impact their business. Your comments on this are so outlandish that I wonder if they're made in good faith?
- onion2k 6y ago
  Your comments on this are so outlandish that I wonder if they're made in good faith? I could suggest you're being paid to defend Ryanair online, but I can't imagine Ryanair paying someone to do that. They don't care about their reputation enough. Kind of like how they aren't too bothered about how it looks in the media when their planes catch fire or have to be intercepted by fighter jets.
  - vultour 6y ago
    And we could suggest you’re being paid to spread FUD about Ryanair. I hate flying with them as much as the next guy, but saying they don’t care about safety is demonstrably wrong, their safety record is one of the best around. Just because it looks like they furnished the interior at the local Lidl doesn’t mean they don’t have strict maintenance and operating procedures.