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If I hear "I have nothing to hide, I don't mind targeted ads." I ask them to unlock their phone hand it to me.

by sschueller 6y ago

dunefox 6y ago
Not the same thing: you're a person they know, so it's privacy. Facebook, Google, 3 letter agencies do that invisibly.
- type0 6y ago
  The better way is to put that info on some private forums where some strangers will discuss it, since it's private by the same definition that's privacy.
  - javagram 6y ago
    Sounds like /r/relationship_advice on reddit or any of the many forums where people do post anonymized questions or stories. Although “tracking” for ads is far less invasive than even that, the only particularly annoying thing is when it bugs out and shows you ads for stuff you just purchased and no longer need, it would be nice if they could track a little better and know once you’ve bought something.
eznzt 6y ago
Which is not the same thing at all, so it proves nothing.
- sam_goody 6y ago
  > so it proves nothing. Which, unfortunately, does not matter. You don't win arguments with proof, you win with persuasion. Proofs are but one tool that can be used to persuade the other party, but if the proofs are not clear and quick, usually the other side will feel they are right - "they have won the argument" On the other hand, a quote like this may well be persuasive to many, and they will feel you are right - "you have won". This is not "the ends justify the means" - this is understanding how people argue. There are those that argue on a purely intellectual level; Richard Feynman describes such a conversation with Einstein Oppenheimer and Bohr. But that was noteworthy enough for him to recall it twenty years later!
  - psychoslave 6y ago
    Hmm, didn’t Feynman have eidetic memory anyway?
    - waterhouse 6y ago
      I don't think so—I've read several of his books and it was never mentioned; neither his Wiki page nor the first several results for googling "feynman eidetic memory" support the claim. There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_possess_an_eidetic_memory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_poss... , on which he is not.
      - psychoslave 6y ago
        Thank you. Obviously, I’m not on this Wikipedia list. :D
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If I hear "I have nothing to hide, I don't mind targeted ads." I ask them to unlock their phone hand it to me.

dunefox 6y ago

Not the same thing: you're a person they know, so it's privacy. Facebook, Google, 3 letter agencies do that invisibly.

type0 6y ago
The better way is to put that info on some private forums where some strangers will discuss it, since it's private by the same definition that's privacy.
- javagram 6y ago
  Sounds like /r/relationship_advice on reddit or any of the many forums where people do post anonymized questions or stories. Although “tracking” for ads is far less invasive than even that, the only particularly annoying thing is when it bugs out and shows you ads for stuff you just purchased and no longer need, it would be nice if they could track a little better and know once you’ve bought something.

eznzt 6y ago

Which is not the same thing at all, so it proves nothing.

sam_goody 6y ago
> so it proves nothing. Which, unfortunately, does not matter. You don't win arguments with proof, you win with persuasion. Proofs are but one tool that can be used to persuade the other party, but if the proofs are not clear and quick, usually the other side will feel they are right - "they have won the argument" On the other hand, a quote like this may well be persuasive to many, and they will feel you are right - "you have won". This is not "the ends justify the means" - this is understanding how people argue. There are those that argue on a purely intellectual level; Richard Feynman describes such a conversation with Einstein Oppenheimer and Bohr. But that was noteworthy enough for him to recall it twenty years later!
- psychoslave 6y ago
  Hmm, didn’t Feynman have eidetic memory anyway?
  - waterhouse 6y ago
    I don't think so—I've read several of his books and it was never mentioned; neither his Wiki page nor the first several results for googling "feynman eidetic memory" support the claim. There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_possess_an_eidetic_memory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_poss... , on which he is not.
    - psychoslave 6y ago
      Thank you. Obviously, I’m not on this Wikipedia list. :D

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