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There definitely are many tools to reform alcoholics into non-alcoholics. There are standard treatment programs like Alcoholics Anonymous [0], there are a numbe

There definitely are many tools to reform alcoholics into non-alcoholics. There are standard treatment programs like Alcoholics Anonymous [0], there are a number of other rehabilitation programs [1], and there are cutting-edge therapies like psychedelic treatments [2]. It's a despondent (and false) view that alcoholism is untreatable. Also, as it comes to driving itself, France is a good example. There, police regularly do random spot-checks for drunk drivers [3], and IIRC every driver must necessarily carry a breathalyser [4]. [0]: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201007/does-alcoholics-anonymous-work-because-its-form-cognitive-behavioral-therapy https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201007/do... [1]: https://www.alcoholrehabguide.org/treatment/ https://www.alcoholrehabguide.org/treatment/ [2]: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201905/can-psychedelic-experiences-cure-alcohol-addiction https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201... [3]: https://www.theaa.com/european-breakdown-cover/driving-in-europe/country-by-country/france-and-monaco https://www.theaa.com/european-breakdown-cover/driving-in-eu... [4]: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2104252/New-French-law-makes-breathalyser-kits-compulsory-motorists.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2104252/New-Frenc...

_cs2017_ 6y ago
France attemtps to prevent alcoholics from driving. It doesn't actually prevent it. The very first result on Google search: https://www.statista.com/statistics/767979/deaths-road-accidents-state-driver-france/#:~:text=In%202018%2C%20almost%203%2C300%20people,France%20but%20also%20in%20Europe https://www.statista.com/statistics/767979/deaths-road-accid...: "Drunk driving is the leading cause of traffic fatalities in France". So if you don't put someone in jail, they often keep driving and killing. What to do about that? Similarly, reform programs attempt to reform alcoholics; they often do not succeed. Jail, however unpleasant it may be, seems to be the only reliable tool to prevent further killing (at least for the duration of the jail term).

_cs2017_ 6y ago

France attemtps to prevent alcoholics from driving. It doesn't actually prevent it. The very first result on Google search: https://www.statista.com/statistics/767979/deaths-road-accidents-state-driver-france/#:~:text=In%202018%2C%20almost%203%2C300%20people,France%20but%20also%20in%20Europe https://www.statista.com/statistics/767979/deaths-road-accid...: "Drunk driving is the leading cause of traffic fatalities in France". So if you don't put someone in jail, they often keep driving and killing. What to do about that? Similarly, reform programs attempt to reform alcoholics; they often do not succeed. Jail, however unpleasant it may be, seems to be the only reliable tool to prevent further killing (at least for the duration of the jail term).