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Why do you want people to stop using iMessage?

• pmlnr 6y ago
  Because it's ios only?
• andrewzah 6y ago
  The short of it is group chats lose functionality when even 1 non-apple user joins, and apple works hard to make sure you can't use imessage on other devices. It's so frustrating. I want to like apple and their approach to privacy, but then they do stuff like this that alienates non-apple users. Anyway, imessage is like a caveman compared to messaging apps like Kakaotalk and LINE. Those have more features and I like group chats on them much more than I do on imessage. Not that I had a choice; I don't think I ever got my Korean friends' actual numbers because everyone uses Kakaotalk. [0]: https://www.androidauthority.com/green-bubble-phenomenon-1021350/ https://www.androidauthority.com/green-bubble-phenomenon-102...
• screamingninja 6y ago
  For one, it happens to be a walled garden.
• ronnier 6y ago
  1) No disappearing messages 2) your messages sent to other people get backed up to their icloud 3) no cross platform support #1 being the most important to me.
  • makapuf 6y ago
    Disappearing messages can always be snapshotted arent they? I fail to see their point ?(earnest question) by snapshotted, either with system snapshot or another phone?
    • ronnier 6y ago
      That’s not the issue. The issue is so that the messages don’t get backed up or left on the phone if the phone is stolen or lost.
• lxgr 6y ago
  Besides all the other reasons already mentioned, its security model is somewhat dated. For example, it does not use forward secrecy, neither for chats nor for 1:1 calls. (Group calls do have forward secrecy.) That said, I still use it over Signal when I can – cross-device messaging is very hard, UX wise (which device receives the notification, does "mark as read" properly sync across device, how is the behavior of a device coming back online after a while etc.), and Apple has almost perfected it at this point.