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We have to have a justice system - to protect the guilty. If someone killed one of my children in the way that this man killed, I would kill him for retributio

We have to have a justice system - to protect the guilty. If someone killed one of my children in the way that this man killed, I would kill him for retribution. A justice system protects him from my wrath. And protects me from the wrath of his father once he learns his son is dead.

watwut 6y ago
Revenge killings like that are not as frequent at all, even in cases where perpetrator walks free. Maybe you would do it, but majority of people simply don't. Revenge killing is good movie plot, but not really the reality of western culture nor was for it reality in past.
- HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
  Revenge killings are rare because perpetrators often don't walk away and if they do you might not walk away. There areas in my country where there are vendettas spanning generations.
  - watwut 6y ago
    Vendettas spanning generations are because your social status require it, not because it is universal emotional reaction to someone being killed three generations ago. That is about mafia dominance struggle. Moreover, other phenomenon in low legal justice areas is that if you or your family is not powerful enough, you suck it up and shut up when someone more powerful kill your relative. Or even when equal does that, unless you are connected to one of mafias. The average person when they have relative killed in drunken auto accident wont kill in revenge. Even criminal groups more often kill for profit or to get rid or witness then pure vengeance.
systemvoltage 6y ago
To add to your points - it puts a framework where both parties can engage in judicial review and present their case / defense. Judicial system is amazing. What we need to do is to make it more precise by reducing false negatives and false positives. Just because of a few failures of the justice system (the stories of failures you read in the news) does not justify getting rid of the entire system.

watwut 6y ago

Revenge killings like that are not as frequent at all, even in cases where perpetrator walks free. Maybe you would do it, but majority of people simply don't. Revenge killing is good movie plot, but not really the reality of western culture nor was for it reality in past.

HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
Revenge killings are rare because perpetrators often don't walk away and if they do you might not walk away. There areas in my country where there are vendettas spanning generations.
- watwut 6y ago
  Vendettas spanning generations are because your social status require it, not because it is universal emotional reaction to someone being killed three generations ago. That is about mafia dominance struggle. Moreover, other phenomenon in low legal justice areas is that if you or your family is not powerful enough, you suck it up and shut up when someone more powerful kill your relative. Or even when equal does that, unless you are connected to one of mafias. The average person when they have relative killed in drunken auto accident wont kill in revenge. Even criminal groups more often kill for profit or to get rid or witness then pure vengeance.

systemvoltage 6y ago

To add to your points - it puts a framework where both parties can engage in judicial review and present their case / defense. Judicial system is amazing. What we need to do is to make it more precise by reducing false negatives and false positives. Just because of a few failures of the justice system (the stories of failures you read in the news) does not justify getting rid of the entire system.