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I am going to buy a new car soon and I think it will be the last time gasoline will be available for me. I'm going 4x4 so there's not much EV options.

morty_s 6y ago
I felt the same way. My wife and I bought a model y in November and we love it. If I could get an electric Tacoma I would, but I think I’m going to have to get into the cyber truck if I want an electric truck.
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- colinmhayes 6y ago
  Rivian?
  - xyst 6y ago
    next deliveries are supposed to be in 2022 lol. im hyped about rivian though. the r1t is sexy af
theshrike79 6y ago
Depends on the type of 4x4 you want. If you're looking for the "I can go EVERYWHERE" type, then your options are a bit limited at the moment (Rivian, Cybertruck, Bollinger). For regular "I want better traction and pull a trailer" 4x4 you've got a bunch of options, mostly PHEV though.
- titanomachy 6y ago
  Are any of those actually options "at the moment"? If I put a deposit on a Rivian or Cybertruck I have no idea when I would actually get to drive it, depends how many people are in line and whether their production lines ramp up on schedule. I can drive a Subaru off the lot today if I want.
  - theshrike79 6y ago
    All three are either prototypes or in pre-production, you can't really buy any of them right now. They did have prototype Rivians for Long Way Up[1] as support vehicles. Keep the old Land Rover or Subaru and check again in a year or two for an actual EV 4x4. [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12824922/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12824922/
ip26 6y ago
EV AWD is really good, FWIW.
mparramon 6y ago
https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev
Zhenya 6y ago
Rivian https://rivian.com/r1t https://rivian.com/r1t
john_w_t_b 6y ago
How about Jeep 4XE, RAV4 Prime or Mitsubishi Outlander. PHEV options are expanding for all wheel drive.
natch 6y ago
Are you claiming that EVs don’t have AWD? My car begs to differ. Or...? Sorry I’m not versed on the finer points of 4x4 versus 4WD versus AWD terminology so maybe it’s me that’s confused, feel free to fill me in.
- ip26 6y ago
  4x4 mechanically locks the front and rear axles together. Valuable vs AWD for driving in very low traction conditions like sand, mud, deep snow. Should not be engaged on dry pavement. AWD dynamically routes power and is always on.
  - natch 6y ago
    Thanks! I wonder if the “valuable vs AWD” part is updated to reflect what EVs can do vs old fashioned gears-and-transmission AWD.
    - chrisBob 6y ago
      EVs typically have a different motor for the front and back wheels, so they would have most of the same traction benefit of a 4x4 system. In the case of companies like Tesla, I think they market as AWD because that implies a system designed for slippery roads, and not off road trails. 4x4 or 4WD can differ a lot but all typically include a locking center differential so that even if both front (or rear) wheels have no traction, the vehicle can move.
      - natch 6y ago
        Model Y has an “off road” mode but that’s about all I know — don’t know how it works.
- titanomachy 6y ago
  For me it was a matter of cost, there were lots of inexpensive used ICE cars with AWD but no electric ones. The cheapest AWD Tesla seems to be $47k new which is vastly more than most people spend on a car.

morty_s 6y ago

I felt the same way. My wife and I bought a model y in November and we love it. If I could get an electric Tacoma I would, but I think I’m going to have to get into the cyber truck if I want an electric truck.

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colinmhayes 6y ago
Rivian?
- xyst 6y ago
  next deliveries are supposed to be in 2022 lol. im hyped about rivian though. the r1t is sexy af

theshrike79 6y ago

Depends on the type of 4x4 you want. If you're looking for the "I can go EVERYWHERE" type, then your options are a bit limited at the moment (Rivian, Cybertruck, Bollinger). For regular "I want better traction and pull a trailer" 4x4 you've got a bunch of options, mostly PHEV though.

titanomachy 6y ago
Are any of those actually options "at the moment"? If I put a deposit on a Rivian or Cybertruck I have no idea when I would actually get to drive it, depends how many people are in line and whether their production lines ramp up on schedule. I can drive a Subaru off the lot today if I want.
- theshrike79 6y ago
  All three are either prototypes or in pre-production, you can't really buy any of them right now. They did have prototype Rivians for Long Way Up[1] as support vehicles. Keep the old Land Rover or Subaru and check again in a year or two for an actual EV 4x4. [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12824922/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12824922/

ip26 6y ago

EV AWD is really good, FWIW.

mparramon 6y ago

https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev

Zhenya 6y ago

Rivian https://rivian.com/r1t https://rivian.com/r1t

john_w_t_b 6y ago

How about Jeep 4XE, RAV4 Prime or Mitsubishi Outlander. PHEV options are expanding for all wheel drive.

natch 6y ago

Are you claiming that EVs don’t have AWD? My car begs to differ. Or...? Sorry I’m not versed on the finer points of 4x4 versus 4WD versus AWD terminology so maybe it’s me that’s confused, feel free to fill me in.

ip26 6y ago
4x4 mechanically locks the front and rear axles together. Valuable vs AWD for driving in very low traction conditions like sand, mud, deep snow. Should not be engaged on dry pavement. AWD dynamically routes power and is always on.
- natch 6y ago
  Thanks! I wonder if the “valuable vs AWD” part is updated to reflect what EVs can do vs old fashioned gears-and-transmission AWD.
  - chrisBob 6y ago
    EVs typically have a different motor for the front and back wheels, so they would have most of the same traction benefit of a 4x4 system. In the case of companies like Tesla, I think they market as AWD because that implies a system designed for slippery roads, and not off road trails. 4x4 or 4WD can differ a lot but all typically include a locking center differential so that even if both front (or rear) wheels have no traction, the vehicle can move.
    - natch 6y ago
      Model Y has an “off road” mode but that’s about all I know — don’t know how it works.
titanomachy 6y ago
For me it was a matter of cost, there were lots of inexpensive used ICE cars with AWD but no electric ones. The cheapest AWD Tesla seems to be $47k new which is vastly more than most people spend on a car.