Wait, how are these numbers for Germany and France relevant? Germany's renewable energy was built in recent years, much of it during a time when it was signific

Wait, how are these numbers for Germany and France relevant? Germany's renewable energy was built in recent years, much of it during a time when it was significantly more expensive than now. Frances price is from mostly very old nuclear reactors, many of which are close to end-of-life. And you seem to be attributing the CO2 emissions to the renewables, but that's in no way fair. Even if we had the solution to energy storage, you'd expect a country switching from coal to renewables to have high emissions even at the half-way point. > So, no, large scale solar power is neither cheap nor clean. It's more complex than headlines would lead you to believe. But that's ALWAYS the case. This conclusion is just as dumb as the headlines, if not even dumber. You're right that storage and backup is a big factor, but it's a problem that's rapidly being solved.