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Duh. Whoever authored the original 75k year study had a bias and/or agenda against our current economic system. We didn't need a study to show that even above

Duh. Whoever authored the original 75k year study had a bias and/or agenda against our current economic system. We didn't need a study to show that even above a 75k salary, more income is correlated with more well-being. This is a prime example of why scientific research should be used as a tool to advance society, not as a religion.

randomsearch 6y ago
Why don’t we need a study? What is obvious? (Seriously)
- natenthe 6y ago
  For someone to not understand this without a study, I think they would need to be oblivious to the state of the economy, the cost of living in the average metropolitan area where the average American lives, and social dynamics / cultural issues in America. Also, if you've experienced significantly different levels of salary then this is obvious.
  - reedf1 6y ago
    I think you've missed the point of science somewhere.
    - newbie2020 6y ago
      Sometimes common sense lets us take shortcuts without having to wait for or spend on the science.
  - klyrs 6y ago
    "Money doesn't buy happiness" is also considered obvious common sense. The study is looking for the phase boundary where one obvious statement ceases to apply and the other takes over.
nojito 6y ago
Except they didn’t. Their findings got morphed away from the actual study over time. Here’s the original graph from the study. https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/107/38/16489/F1.large.jpg https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/107/38/16489/F1.large.jpg
- natenthe 6y ago
  It would be helpful if you actually posted the study, not a quantitative graph without context of the data contained within. It is misleading. The study: https://www.pnas.org/content/107/38/16489 https://www.pnas.org/content/107/38/16489 "Emotional well-being also rises with log income, but there is no further progress beyond an annual income of ~$75,000" "We conclude that high income buys life satisfaction but not happiness, and that low income is associated both with low life evaluation and low emotional well-being." The study states that emotional well-being does not rise with income over 75k. The study also concludes that high income is not correlated to happiness. These conclusions are clearly erroneous.
newbie2020 6y ago
Tell that to Fauci and our governors please.
PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
Apparently you're not aware of a previous study that showed that income above $75k/yr did NOT increase well being.
- sjg007 6y ago
  That study was funded by the international employers society.
throw0101a 6y ago
This new paper actually makes conclusions that are the opposite of what the data shows: * https://twitter.com/jonaslindeloev/status/1353834264756965377 https://twitter.com/jonaslindeloev/status/135383426475696537... * https://lindeloev.net/new-pnas-paper-income-is-a-poor-way-to-improve-well-being/ https://lindeloev.net/new-pnas-paper-income-is-a-poor-way-to...

randomsearch 6y ago

Why don’t we need a study? What is obvious? (Seriously)

natenthe 6y ago
For someone to not understand this without a study, I think they would need to be oblivious to the state of the economy, the cost of living in the average metropolitan area where the average American lives, and social dynamics / cultural issues in America. Also, if you've experienced significantly different levels of salary then this is obvious.
- reedf1 6y ago
  I think you've missed the point of science somewhere.
  - newbie2020 6y ago
    Sometimes common sense lets us take shortcuts without having to wait for or spend on the science.
- klyrs 6y ago
  "Money doesn't buy happiness" is also considered obvious common sense. The study is looking for the phase boundary where one obvious statement ceases to apply and the other takes over.

nojito 6y ago

Except they didn’t. Their findings got morphed away from the actual study over time. Here’s the original graph from the study. https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/107/38/16489/F1.large.jpg https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/107/38/16489/F1.large.jpg

natenthe 6y ago
It would be helpful if you actually posted the study, not a quantitative graph without context of the data contained within. It is misleading. The study: https://www.pnas.org/content/107/38/16489 https://www.pnas.org/content/107/38/16489 "Emotional well-being also rises with log income, but there is no further progress beyond an annual income of ~$75,000" "We conclude that high income buys life satisfaction but not happiness, and that low income is associated both with low life evaluation and low emotional well-being." The study states that emotional well-being does not rise with income over 75k. The study also concludes that high income is not correlated to happiness. These conclusions are clearly erroneous.

newbie2020 6y ago

Tell that to Fauci and our governors please.

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago

Apparently you're not aware of a previous study that showed that income above $75k/yr did NOT increase well being.

sjg007 6y ago
That study was funded by the international employers society.

throw0101a 6y ago

This new paper actually makes conclusions that are the opposite of what the data shows: * https://twitter.com/jonaslindeloev/status/1353834264756965377 https://twitter.com/jonaslindeloev/status/135383426475696537... * https://lindeloev.net/new-pnas-paper-income-is-a-poor-way-to-improve-well-being/ https://lindeloev.net/new-pnas-paper-income-is-a-poor-way-to...