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Oh, so Project Gutenberg is still a thing? I used to use it until they blocked German users (context: they were asked to prevent access to certain pieces for Ge

Oh, so Project Gutenberg is still a thing? I used to use it until they blocked German users (context: they were asked to prevent access to certain pieces for German users but they decided to go nuclear instead). Nowadays I just go to LibGen when I want to have a look into a book. That LibGen doesn’t limit itself to works in the public domain is rather a feature ;)

gutensearch 6y ago
And this is why the server is in Amsterdam, even though I have had good experiences with Hetzner in the past. I was quite sad to read about the case in 2018, and it is unfortunate that it is still not resolved.
- SahAssar 6y ago
  Hetzner has locations in finland too if that would work.
IndySun 6y ago
What's the German story?
- robin_reala 6y ago
  Work that’s PD in the US but not in Germany. German rights-holders took PG to court (or rather, a poor German sysadmin for PG), court demanded PG pull the titles for Germany, PG refused saying that it was down to the users to determine PD status for their home country, and because of HTTPS the German court’s only option was to block PG at the domain level.
  - _Microft 6y ago
    Project Gutenberg themselves decided to block all access from Germany instead of just the items in question. „On February 9 2018, the Court issued a judgment granting essentially most of the Plaintiff's demands. The Court did not order that the 18 items no longer be made available by Project Gutenberg, and instead wrote that it is sufficient to instead make them no longer accessible to German Internet (IP) addresses. PGLAF complied with the Court's order on February 28, 2018 by blocking all access to www.gutenberg.org and sub-pages to all of Germany.“, from https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html
    - IndySun 6y ago
      Helpful page, with much useful information.
  - IndySun 6y ago
    Never ceases to amaze me how one can be 'into' a subject and miss huge 'in plain sight' news. When I lived in London I stopped buying TimeOut to find out whatson, and instead simply paid closer attention to Tube posters.

gutensearch 6y ago

And this is why the server is in Amsterdam, even though I have had good experiences with Hetzner in the past. I was quite sad to read about the case in 2018, and it is unfortunate that it is still not resolved.

SahAssar 6y ago
Hetzner has locations in finland too if that would work.

IndySun 6y ago

What's the German story?

robin_reala 6y ago
Work that’s PD in the US but not in Germany. German rights-holders took PG to court (or rather, a poor German sysadmin for PG), court demanded PG pull the titles for Germany, PG refused saying that it was down to the users to determine PD status for their home country, and because of HTTPS the German court’s only option was to block PG at the domain level.
- _Microft 6y ago
  Project Gutenberg themselves decided to block all access from Germany instead of just the items in question. „On February 9 2018, the Court issued a judgment granting essentially most of the Plaintiff's demands. The Court did not order that the 18 items no longer be made available by Project Gutenberg, and instead wrote that it is sufficient to instead make them no longer accessible to German Internet (IP) addresses. PGLAF complied with the Court's order on February 28, 2018 by blocking all access to www.gutenberg.org and sub-pages to all of Germany.“, from https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html
  - IndySun 6y ago
    Helpful page, with much useful information.
- IndySun 6y ago
  Never ceases to amaze me how one can be 'into' a subject and miss huge 'in plain sight' news. When I lived in London I stopped buying TimeOut to find out whatson, and instead simply paid closer attention to Tube posters.