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Another typically ungrateful and entitled comment about opensource on HN. Color me surprised. > Do these men think that time is free? Do you think they have e

Another typically ungrateful and entitled comment about opensource on HN. Color me surprised. > Do these men think that time is free? Do you think they have endless time to plan a migration with minute detail for every possible usecase? Users have about a decade to migrate their codebases and stop writing new projects in Python 2. Do you need another decade? Or are you personally going to take over the maintenance of the python2 runtime? Does anybody actually pay the core dev team for support? Do you? Does your company? Have they been coordinating all these years with the core devs and are unhappy with the result they paid for? I kinda doubt it. It would be really nice if people were just thankful for all the free stuff they got and built their enterprises on.

sgt 6y ago
Agreed, although I see our opinions are being heavily downvoted.
Blikkentrekker 6y ago
> Do you think they have endless time to plan a migration with minute detail for every possible usecase? My point is that for these small changes from 2 to 3, there should have never been a migration to begin with. It's not an accusation of lack of effort; it's an accusation of ignorance on their part. The migration has not only cost everyone else time and money; it has cost them time and money that was better spent elsewhere. It has been a net detriment to all parties, including them, because they severely underestimated the cost of rewriting software and dealing with the regressions it might lead to. I will damned well call a man foolish, for pointing a gun at his foot and getting shot in it, because he underestimated how easily the trigger would go off by accident, instead of being thankfully that he was willing to put in the effort to aim it at his foot.
- paulryanrogers 6y ago
  You may be right or blinded by hindsight. Personally I'd rather see more breaking changes in languages like PHP that have a lot of baggage holding them back.

sgt 6y ago

Agreed, although I see our opinions are being heavily downvoted.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago

> Do you think they have endless time to plan a migration with minute detail for every possible usecase? My point is that for these small changes from 2 to 3, there should have never been a migration to begin with. It's not an accusation of lack of effort; it's an accusation of ignorance on their part. The migration has not only cost everyone else time and money; it has cost them time and money that was better spent elsewhere. It has been a net detriment to all parties, including them, because they severely underestimated the cost of rewriting software and dealing with the regressions it might lead to. I will damned well call a man foolish, for pointing a gun at his foot and getting shot in it, because he underestimated how easily the trigger would go off by accident, instead of being thankfully that he was willing to put in the effort to aim it at his foot.

paulryanrogers 6y ago
You may be right or blinded by hindsight. Personally I'd rather see more breaking changes in languages like PHP that have a lot of baggage holding them back.