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starving in 1989 1) Some privatization and other social experiments were already underway 2) Some Americans (and hell, someone in just about every country in t

starving in 1989 1) Some privatization and other social experiments were already underway 2) Some Americans (and hell, someone in just about every country in the world) are starving now. have you spoken to your father? Has he told you about the public hangings? The hush hush neighbour informer, the gota go to the party rally. I recommend reading about life in the real-life, post-Stalin USSR, as opposed to the Hollywood dystopia you are describing. You are in for some major surprises. Have you spoken to your father? Did he tell you about midnight War on Drugs arrests, of stoolies and plea bargains, and of prisons where HIV-positive anal rape is an expected part of a sentence? What, he never mentioned those things? Are they not "as American as apple pie"? Who is to say what the USA will be remembered for? The dead (empires or people) cannot speak, cannot defend themselves. Have you seen the great civilisations? They all were centres of trade. Who said anything about dispensing with trade as a whole?

Andrew_Quentin 15y ago
I don't know, I thought that is what Russia did. I take it you have not spoken to your father then? He has lived through it. You have not. This is not Hollywood, this is not glitters and crazy drugged house flying with birds. This is real life. I asked if you remember about the lines of bread? I have not heard of any American's starving, but this is not about a comparison. That can become distracting. Let us first learn about what Russia was. Now, two things by Googling can be confirmed. There were bread lines. It went bankrupt. When you have no food you sell your assets. So how did he steal? How is he the thief and not, say Stalin? Or indeed your Mr Putin.
- asciilifeform 15y ago
  My parents never saw an execution, never sat in a prison camp, never quaked in fear of stoolies. Their complaints about everyday life were much the same as those of any American mired in corporate bureaucracy. All bureaucracies are largely alike. There were bread lines. It went bankrupt. Have you wondered why? And why it happened when it did? At this point, you (and all the rest of us in the USA) will be educated the old-fashioned way: by watching the same thing happen in person. It is very sad but appears to be unavoidable. Soon you will not need to bother opening a book to learn how a country goes bankrupt and begins to be famous only for bread lines and a foggily remembered past full of assorted atrocities.
doyoulikeworms 15y ago
>The dead (empires or people) cannot speak, cannot defend themselves. Shockingly, this is false.

Andrew_Quentin 15y ago

I don't know, I thought that is what Russia did. I take it you have not spoken to your father then? He has lived through it. You have not. This is not Hollywood, this is not glitters and crazy drugged house flying with birds. This is real life. I asked if you remember about the lines of bread? I have not heard of any American's starving, but this is not about a comparison. That can become distracting. Let us first learn about what Russia was. Now, two things by Googling can be confirmed. There were bread lines. It went bankrupt. When you have no food you sell your assets. So how did he steal? How is he the thief and not, say Stalin? Or indeed your Mr Putin.

asciilifeform 15y ago
My parents never saw an execution, never sat in a prison camp, never quaked in fear of stoolies. Their complaints about everyday life were much the same as those of any American mired in corporate bureaucracy. All bureaucracies are largely alike. There were bread lines. It went bankrupt. Have you wondered why? And why it happened when it did? At this point, you (and all the rest of us in the USA) will be educated the old-fashioned way: by watching the same thing happen in person. It is very sad but appears to be unavoidable. Soon you will not need to bother opening a book to learn how a country goes bankrupt and begins to be famous only for bread lines and a foggily remembered past full of assorted atrocities.

doyoulikeworms 15y ago

>The dead (empires or people) cannot speak, cannot defend themselves. Shockingly, this is false.