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Visual Sentence Composer for Japanese
- chrismcb 6y agoActually an ad for the composer TBD.
- wodenokoto 6y agoAnyone paid for Japanese Complete? How was it?
- abnercoimbre 6y agoHere's my popular review [0] from 5 months ago. Maybe it's improved since then (I still get e-mails even though I complained. System flags them as spam at this point.) [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24026775 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24026775
- 29athrowaway 6y agoJust a reminder that Duolingo teaches you Japanese for free.
- thaumasiotes 6y agoIt'd be more accurate to say "Duolingo gives you some Japanese-themed activities to play with, for free".
- 29athrowaway 6y agoNah, I actually think it does teach you Japanese. I had Japanese lessons for a year at a language school, with teachers, tests, etc... and I have continued my studies using Duolingo. It is useful.
- glandium 6y agoDuolingo barely scratches the surface, and at the same time, in many ways, hinders progress for beginners (I've seen people struggle with things they shouldn't have to struggle with). I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
- kranner 6y agoI've seen one friend who was learning French (non-Québécois) exclusively via Duolingo use "bienvenue" instead of "de rien".
- yorwba 6y ago> I've seen people struggle with things they shouldn't have to struggle with Could you give some examples? I've never used Duolingo for very long, but I had the impression that they were making things too easy, especially with multiple-choice/sort-the-words questions where you can often guess the correct answer.
- solarmist 6y agoThe translation exercises are terrible and should never be used by anyone not specifically training to be a translator. I’m an intermediate learner and I almost always can identify exactly what the phrase should mean, but when I try to write the English sentence more than 80% of the time I will phrase it differently than they do and get it wrong. Translations make me spend time worrying about how EXACTLY the original translator phrased it rather than focusing on the contents of the sentences.
- thaumasiotes 6y agoNote that grading of translations is impossible for them to do without a model that maps arbitrary English to a semantic representation. I believe IBM actually implemented something like this as part of their "Watson" efforts, but there's certainly not a public solution around. That doesn't mean it's impossible to offer useful translation exercises, though. It means it's impossible to use a computer to grade them. If you, as the student, are willing to ignore whether you get marked "right" or "wrong", you get the full value of the instruction -- you make the attempt, Duolingo tells you what the sentence meant, and even though Duolingo can't tell whether your sentence meant the same thing, you can.
- throwaway525142 6y agoin exchange for viewing ads (and probably user data).
- 29athrowaway 6y agoI have a pfsense firewall with pfblocker and I see exactly zero ads in the website.
- kranner 6y agoOf course you won't see ads if you block them. Duolingo still shows ads to users without ad-blocking firewalls or ad-blockers on their phones. You may even be violating Duolingo's terms of use by blocking ads.
- Razengan 6y agoHelloTalk and HiNative have been the best “free” resources that I have found for learning Japanese from Japanese natives, and exchanging your own language with them in turn. For paid resources iTalki has worked well for me.
- fenomas 6y agoIt's hard to imagine who this is for. If you don't already know the words/particles involved, the sentences coming out of this would be gibberish. And if you do, aren't you pretty likely to have access to an IME? Also a couple of the words in the mockup aren't actual words. Not sure if that's supposed to be intentional.