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> People are not turned into property. This is coercion through debt. It turns out there's a term for when people are coerced to work through debt: https://en.

by tdeck 6y ago

> People are not turned into property. This is coercion through debt. It turns out there's a term for when people are coerced to work through debt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_bondage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_bondage > Currently, debt bondage is the most common method of enslavement with an estimated 8.1 million people bonded to labour illegally as cited by the International Labour Organization in 2005. Debt bondage has been described by the United Nations as a form of "modern day slavery" and the Supplementary Convention on the Abolition of Slavery seeks to abolish the practice.

manfredo 6y ago
From your link: >The services required to repay the debt may be undefined, and the services' duration may be undefined, thus allowing the person supposedly owed the debt to demand services indefinitely.[2] Debt bondage can be passed on from generation to generation. Debt bondage is when people are enslaved on the pretext of debt. These people do not have the freedom leave their jobs, and this deprivation of liberty is enforced by society. This is not the case with these jobs. "You have to pay to quit" is not correct, people can quit any time even if they don't have any money. What they mean is that people when they quit have to pay back the cost of equipment ans training, and if they can't pay it becomes a debt. This kind of scheme is common in trucking. A company gives training and a truck in exchange for working for the trucking company. But then they charge an interest and a truck rental fee, and the driver ultimately can't make enough money to pay off the loan [1]. The result is that the driver ends up filing for bankruptcy. This is a predatory loan wrapped up in an employment opportunity. It is at best highly sensational to equate this with the slavery detailed in your wikipedia link. Let alone to invoke the Holocaust: > The whole family goes into lockdown like Anne Frank in the attic as soon as Mom dials into her terrible job. 1. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/10/901110994/big-rigged https://www.npr.org/2020/08/10/901110994/big-rigged
lldbg 6y ago
A prime minister of Sweden stated that "He, who is in debt, is not free". Sometimes nuances makes communicating concepts less efficient, and debt bondage is one such case.

by tdeck 6y ago

manfredo 6y ago

From your link: >The services required to repay the debt may be undefined, and the services' duration may be undefined, thus allowing the person supposedly owed the debt to demand services indefinitely.[2] Debt bondage can be passed on from generation to generation. Debt bondage is when people are enslaved on the pretext of debt. These people do not have the freedom leave their jobs, and this deprivation of liberty is enforced by society. This is not the case with these jobs. "You have to pay to quit" is not correct, people can quit any time even if they don't have any money. What they mean is that people when they quit have to pay back the cost of equipment ans training, and if they can't pay it becomes a debt. This kind of scheme is common in trucking. A company gives training and a truck in exchange for working for the trucking company. But then they charge an interest and a truck rental fee, and the driver ultimately can't make enough money to pay off the loan [1]. The result is that the driver ends up filing for bankruptcy. This is a predatory loan wrapped up in an employment opportunity. It is at best highly sensational to equate this with the slavery detailed in your wikipedia link. Let alone to invoke the Holocaust: > The whole family goes into lockdown like Anne Frank in the attic as soon as Mom dials into her terrible job. 1. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/10/901110994/big-rigged https://www.npr.org/2020/08/10/901110994/big-rigged

lldbg 6y ago

A prime minister of Sweden stated that "He, who is in debt, is not free". Sometimes nuances makes communicating concepts less efficient, and debt bondage is one such case.