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We need to replace the "work as social outlet" with something else. It's not the office anyone wants, it's the connection, we're just lacking the connection par

We need to replace the "work as social outlet" with something else. It's not the office anyone wants, it's the connection, we're just lacking the connection part to make remote work... well... work.

aurbano 6y ago
I’ve been saying this for a while.. we are missing local communities in today’s society. People used to go to church and do religious events and things sometimes during the week - this is all gone now, and I wish we had an alternative that didn’t rely on religion, just based on the local community somehow. Community centers 2.0 or whatever, but a place where people have a reason to go. I can only think of classes which doesn’t quite work I think (hard to really get everyone there at the same time) but maybe it’s the key I have no idea!
- ColFrancis 6y ago
  Here's a random thought: Community, in some ways, require some lock in (don't think in absolutes here but switching costs etc.). If you're locked in to the community you have to sort out differences and make it work. For religion and work the lock in is obvious. But outside of these we can easily chop and change our community leading to us not bothering about compromise as much and us missing out on the deeper relationships.
  - dropofwill 6y ago
    I think this is an important point. Recently I was reading a post that talked about how one belongs to a community. Which on one hand means you are accepted and identify with it, but also that the community has a claim back upon you. People within that community depend on each other and that dependencies offers opportunity to connect more deeply. In the article he blocks out a longer excerpt from O Pioneers! by Willa Cather, with this bolded bit: > Freedom so often means that one isn't needed anywhere. https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/p/the-convivial-society-no-4 https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/p/the-convivial-soc...
- myself248 6y ago
  I wouldn't say I was exactly _surprised_ by this dynamic in hackerspaces, but perhaps I was caught off-guard by how strong it is. The tools and projects really are secondary in a space that has a strong and welcoming community. This next bit is extrapolation on my part, but I suspect the hackerspace demographic has particularly minimal church attendance, and that may contribute to our appreciation of "third place" dynamics elsewhere.
  - aurbano 6y ago
    I've never been to one of those but it does sound great! I'll have a look around my area and try one post-lockdown, although I feel like it'd be so much easier to join if I already knew someone who went...

We need to replace the "work as social outlet" with something else. It's not the office anyone wants, it's the connection, we're just lacking the connection part to make remote work... well... work.

aurbano 6y ago

I’ve been saying this for a while.. we are missing local communities in today’s society. People used to go to church and do religious events and things sometimes during the week - this is all gone now, and I wish we had an alternative that didn’t rely on religion, just based on the local community somehow. Community centers 2.0 or whatever, but a place where people have a reason to go. I can only think of classes which doesn’t quite work I think (hard to really get everyone there at the same time) but maybe it’s the key I have no idea!

ColFrancis 6y ago
Here's a random thought: Community, in some ways, require some lock in (don't think in absolutes here but switching costs etc.). If you're locked in to the community you have to sort out differences and make it work. For religion and work the lock in is obvious. But outside of these we can easily chop and change our community leading to us not bothering about compromise as much and us missing out on the deeper relationships.
- dropofwill 6y ago
  I think this is an important point. Recently I was reading a post that talked about how one belongs to a community. Which on one hand means you are accepted and identify with it, but also that the community has a claim back upon you. People within that community depend on each other and that dependencies offers opportunity to connect more deeply. In the article he blocks out a longer excerpt from O Pioneers! by Willa Cather, with this bolded bit: > Freedom so often means that one isn't needed anywhere. https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/p/the-convivial-society-no-4 https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/p/the-convivial-soc...
myself248 6y ago
I wouldn't say I was exactly _surprised_ by this dynamic in hackerspaces, but perhaps I was caught off-guard by how strong it is. The tools and projects really are secondary in a space that has a strong and welcoming community. This next bit is extrapolation on my part, but I suspect the hackerspace demographic has particularly minimal church attendance, and that may contribute to our appreciation of "third place" dynamics elsewhere.
- aurbano 6y ago
  I've never been to one of those but it does sound great! I'll have a look around my area and try one post-lockdown, although I feel like it'd be so much easier to join if I already knew someone who went...