7 ms·
Didn't need a study to know this
by mk81 6y ago
Didn't need a study to know this
- sergiotapia 6y agoThe loons that say "healthy at any size" beg to differ unfortunately. It's just a coping mechanism.
- callamdelaney 6y agoIndeed, this is stating the obvious. If you are an active fat person, you are still a fat person - which is the important point.
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- xibalba 6y agoUnfortunately, we do. There is a movement dubbed HAES which purports "health at any size".
- SamoyedFurFluff 6y agoPlease correct me but I always thought HAES meant “you can choose healthy choices no matter your size”, presumably because past a certain point fat people might be like ‘fuck it no point in trying to be better’.
- tshaddox 6y agoThat’s one of those things that I’ve been hearing about for a decade or longer, but literally only from people refuting it and apparently claiming it’s a mainstream view that desperately needs to be refuted.
- xibalba 6y ago[1] has quite a good overview of the HAES movement. It is real. [1] httpss://www.medicaldaily.com/health-every-size-obesity-weight-loss-science-383008
- selestify 6y agoAs with every other generic slogan, it probably means different things to different people
- ketamine__ 6y agoHAES is giving yourself permission to give up.
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- mumblemumble 6y agoI wonder if the two can't be reconciled. It's probably ideal, from a health perspective, to avoid developing things like metabolic in the first place. But has it been demonstrated that, once you're already there, living the kind of aggressively orthorexic lifestyle it takes to get down to an ostensibly healthy weight does more good than harm? Even without that, though, I'm sympathetic to HAES because it seems quite likely that, even if absolutely nothing else, focusing on body weight rather than lifestyle factors ultimately does more to discourage than encourage making healthier choices.
- geofft 6y agoAnd in fact this study totally fails to refute that idea. All it does is it says that, among a half million people, the higher-BMI groups had more cases of high cholesterol, high blood pressure, and diabetes, even when controlling for levels of physical activity. It says nothing about whether adding physical activity to get to a lower-BMI group could work as a treatment for any of those, nor whether there are any consequences of that level of physical activity.
- nvr219 6y agoI do like the focus on health rather than weight though, I think that's valuable.
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- bzb6 6y agoThere are many stupid movements. Do you think you’ll change the opinions of anybody with a study? Especially when the solution is losing weight
- naringas 6y agoand no amount of studies will get this into the heads of those who need to accept it
- kevbin 6y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP4IyBal1xg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP4IyBal1xg
- sasij 6y agoI'd like to agree, but when this was a major magazine front page this month, I don't think I can.https://i.imgur.com/0kQQMcS.png https://i.imgur.com/0kQQMcS.png I personally know too many people who believe this shit. You can't say anything about it though or you're called scum and toxic. That too is healthy to them.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago> You can't say anything about it though or you're called scum and toxic. Because saying anything true and unpleasant is viewed as "harmful" since the do-gooders view people with problems as helpless, powerless victims. Really though, if you want to spot the BS, look for vague vocabulary - "harm" is a key term.