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I watched the summer riots on youtube live streams, I don't recall the FBI using this technique for the tens of thousands of man-hours spent looting, burning an

I watched the summer riots on youtube live streams, I don't recall the FBI using this technique for the tens of thousands of man-hours spent looting, burning and rioting in Portland, LA, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, NYC or Atlanta.

AtlasBarfed 6y ago
In Minneapolis for the George Floyd riots they tracked down the right-wing agitator "umbrella man": https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-wh... Maybe they used the same techniques there. Does that make you feel better?
joefife 6y ago
Yes, that's because they weren't trying to stage a coup.
madenine 6y ago
I don't think its the FBI's job to figure out who smashed up a Target or looted a Footlocker. Its definitely the FBI's job to figure out who breached a federal building, let alone the seat of our legislative branch during an active session. That being said... the FBI, DOJ, DHS, and state agencies definitely do shady stuff and track people via their devices at protests. I'm remembering surveillance planes over Baltimore that were traced back to feds.
ketamine__ 6y ago
They pursued legislators and the vice president after gaining access to the building. The FBI should be aggressive.
skeletonjelly 6y ago
Then you weren't paying attention enough, and just because you don't recall doesn't mean it didn't happen, which it did: https://theintercept.com/2020/07/09/twitter-dataminr-police-spy-surveillance-black-lives-matter-protests/ https://theintercept.com/2020/07/09/twitter-dataminr-police-... Know where I recalled I read this? Here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23783503 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23783503
- djrogers 6y ago
  Your linked article is about a company data-mining Twitter. TFA we are discussing is about the FBI getting location data from phones. These are two very different things...
  - skeletonjelly 6y ago
    Your point was clearly the broader law-enforcement tracking, you sought to draw a comparison between the two events to ask why one had been an infosec focus of law enforcement.

AtlasBarfed 6y ago

In Minneapolis for the George Floyd riots they tracked down the right-wing agitator "umbrella man": https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-wh... Maybe they used the same techniques there. Does that make you feel better?

joefife 6y ago

Yes, that's because they weren't trying to stage a coup.

madenine 6y ago

I don't think its the FBI's job to figure out who smashed up a Target or looted a Footlocker. Its definitely the FBI's job to figure out who breached a federal building, let alone the seat of our legislative branch during an active session. That being said... the FBI, DOJ, DHS, and state agencies definitely do shady stuff and track people via their devices at protests. I'm remembering surveillance planes over Baltimore that were traced back to feds.

ketamine__ 6y ago

They pursued legislators and the vice president after gaining access to the building. The FBI should be aggressive.

skeletonjelly 6y ago

Then you weren't paying attention enough, and just because you don't recall doesn't mean it didn't happen, which it did: https://theintercept.com/2020/07/09/twitter-dataminr-police-spy-surveillance-black-lives-matter-protests/ https://theintercept.com/2020/07/09/twitter-dataminr-police-... Know where I recalled I read this? Here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23783503 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23783503

djrogers 6y ago
Your linked article is about a company data-mining Twitter. TFA we are discussing is about the FBI getting location data from phones. These are two very different things...
- skeletonjelly 6y ago
  Your point was clearly the broader law-enforcement tracking, you sought to draw a comparison between the two events to ask why one had been an infosec focus of law enforcement.