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This is just wrong on so many levels. You even included the widely debunked (even by her own colleagues!) Nikole Hannah-Jones 1619 project lies. Cops do not car

This is just wrong on so many levels. You even included the widely debunked (even by her own colleagues!) Nikole Hannah-Jones 1619 project lies. Cops do not care if you are “weird”. Police do in fact exist to enforce the law. It really is that simple.

inefficient 6y ago
Well that's just blatantly not true. They aren't even required to know the laws and can enforce laws that they think exist even if they do not. See Heien vs North Carolina. Police exist to "keep the peace." The question is whose peace are they keeping. Well I suppose the reaction of police at the Jan. 6 insurrection vs that of the BLM protests tells us a little. Or the union busting police did in the past. Or blocking the polls for minorities. But it absolutely isn't "that simple."
- kortilla 6y ago
  > Well I suppose the reaction of police at the Jan. 6 insurrection vs that of the BLM protests tells us a little. They shot a woman in the neck. What’s the difference you’re trying to portray?
dualthro 6y ago
Police murdered this kid for being weird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elijah_McClain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elijah_McClain
kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
That's a nice fantasy. They're supposed to enforce broken laws. It isn't unusual for them to abuse their power with mental gymnastics to violate the civil rights of law abiding citizens. I've had two illegal stops in the past year because in one I took a swig from a soda bottle going by a speed trap and the cop wanted to see if it was alcohol. The other, a cop in an unmarked car tried to run me out of my lane to follow a speeder. Some years ago I had to deal with a small town gumshoe in Indiana who had staked out an intersection of IN route 55. This was late at night in pitch black darkness. Indiana highway signs look like speed limit signs from a distance and IN55 in particular is hard to distinguish from the 55MPH speed limit signs. The local cops know this and abuse their power to make illegal stops. https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2361263,-87.2433936,3a,75y,10.8h,85.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw4XGP2lfFU2YNiLamsc2vw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2361263,-87.2433936,3a,75y,1... Indiana requires signals 200 ft from an intersection in rural areas rather than the normal 100 ft. The county couldn't be bothered to have an advance sign for the intersection so I didn't know when to signal for the turn. He and I were the only two people on the road but clearly I was a major threat to public safety.
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  What does any of that have to do with the true fact that cops exist to enforce the law? I don’t think anyone made the claim that no cops are abusive.

inefficient 6y ago

Well that's just blatantly not true. They aren't even required to know the laws and can enforce laws that they think exist even if they do not. See Heien vs North Carolina. Police exist to "keep the peace." The question is whose peace are they keeping. Well I suppose the reaction of police at the Jan. 6 insurrection vs that of the BLM protests tells us a little. Or the union busting police did in the past. Or blocking the polls for minorities. But it absolutely isn't "that simple."

kortilla 6y ago
> Well I suppose the reaction of police at the Jan. 6 insurrection vs that of the BLM protests tells us a little. They shot a woman in the neck. What’s the difference you’re trying to portray?

dualthro 6y ago

Police murdered this kid for being weird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elijah_McClain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elijah_McClain

kevin_thibedeau 6y ago

That's a nice fantasy. They're supposed to enforce broken laws. It isn't unusual for them to abuse their power with mental gymnastics to violate the civil rights of law abiding citizens. I've had two illegal stops in the past year because in one I took a swig from a soda bottle going by a speed trap and the cop wanted to see if it was alcohol. The other, a cop in an unmarked car tried to run me out of my lane to follow a speeder. Some years ago I had to deal with a small town gumshoe in Indiana who had staked out an intersection of IN route 55. This was late at night in pitch black darkness. Indiana highway signs look like speed limit signs from a distance and IN55 in particular is hard to distinguish from the 55MPH speed limit signs. The local cops know this and abuse their power to make illegal stops. https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2361263,-87.2433936,3a,75y,10.8h,85.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw4XGP2lfFU2YNiLamsc2vw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2361263,-87.2433936,3a,75y,1... Indiana requires signals 200 ft from an intersection in rural areas rather than the normal 100 ft. The county couldn't be bothered to have an advance sign for the intersection so I didn't know when to signal for the turn. He and I were the only two people on the road but clearly I was a major threat to public safety.

lawnchair_larry 6y ago
What does any of that have to do with the true fact that cops exist to enforce the law? I don’t think anyone made the claim that no cops are abusive.