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At this point it’s best not to bet against Elon. I’d bet his timelines are off, that’s always been the case. But his army of engineers know what they’re doing.

by kneel 6y ago

tveita 6y ago
> At this point it’s best not to bet against Elon. Maybe in a "should you short Tesla stock" or "will a Californian jury rule against him" sense. But on the other hand, if you bet a friend on how many Tesla Robotaxis would be on the road by the end of 2020 you could be sitting on a nice bottle of whisky by now.
- nickik 6y ago
  Betting one friend on a small timing detail is fun and all, but that not really what people mean when people talk about 'not betting against Elon'. We are talking about big things. Elon said they will capture Apollo size booster directly from the air on ocean space ports. And the majority of people were like 'mh, sound reasonable will probably work in a few years'. Think about laterally any other person or government saying that people would be like 'yeah, sure maybe in a decade plus and 20 billion or more'.
  - clouddrover 6y ago
    > Elon said Elon said coronavirus would be finished in the US by April, 2020. How'd that work out for him?
    - nickik 6y ago
      I love how people always take on of a few examples and point out to that. You would think such bad arguments are above this forum. Also, that is not something that Elon or his companies would do so it doesn't really speak to my point.
      - clouddrover 6y ago
        You haven't made any points. You've merely expressed a religious belief.
      - mxschumacher 6y ago
        here are a few more examples: https://elonmusk.today/ https://elonmusk.today/
        nickik 6y ago
        Tons of these are already outdated. Others are future looking statements that have not yet been disproved. If that is the best you can do for THE LAST 10 years its actually embracing.
qeternity 6y ago
It’s not betting against Elon, I don’t think anyone thinks he will fail outright. But company valuations are shades of grey. So it’s betting against everyone else who owns TSLA stock under the argument that they will never be able to justify these valuations. Tesla is far from the only EV manufacturer.

At this point it’s best not to bet against Elon. I’d bet his timelines are off, that’s always been the case. But his army of engineers know what they’re doing.

by kneel 6y ago

At this point it’s best not to bet against Elon. I’d bet his timelines are off, that’s always been the case. But his army of engineers know what they’re doing.

tveita 6y ago

> At this point it’s best not to bet against Elon. Maybe in a "should you short Tesla stock" or "will a Californian jury rule against him" sense. But on the other hand, if you bet a friend on how many Tesla Robotaxis would be on the road by the end of 2020 you could be sitting on a nice bottle of whisky by now.

nickik 6y ago
Betting one friend on a small timing detail is fun and all, but that not really what people mean when people talk about 'not betting against Elon'. We are talking about big things. Elon said they will capture Apollo size booster directly from the air on ocean space ports. And the majority of people were like 'mh, sound reasonable will probably work in a few years'. Think about laterally any other person or government saying that people would be like 'yeah, sure maybe in a decade plus and 20 billion or more'.
- clouddrover 6y ago
  > Elon said Elon said coronavirus would be finished in the US by April, 2020. How'd that work out for him?
  - nickik 6y ago
    I love how people always take on of a few examples and point out to that. You would think such bad arguments are above this forum. Also, that is not something that Elon or his companies would do so it doesn't really speak to my point.
    - clouddrover 6y ago
      You haven't made any points. You've merely expressed a religious belief.
    - mxschumacher 6y ago
      here are a few more examples: https://elonmusk.today/ https://elonmusk.today/
      - nickik 6y ago
        Tons of these are already outdated. Others are future looking statements that have not yet been disproved. If that is the best you can do for THE LAST 10 years its actually embracing.

qeternity 6y ago

It’s not betting against Elon, I don’t think anyone thinks he will fail outright. But company valuations are shades of grey. So it’s betting against everyone else who owns TSLA stock under the argument that they will never be able to justify these valuations. Tesla is far from the only EV manufacturer.