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Yes they did. For 4 years they blamed and attacked FB and Twitter for letting trump win. The pressure was enough. Enough for these platforms to disable private

by zpeti 6y ago

Yes they did. For 4 years they blamed and attacked FB and Twitter for letting trump win. The pressure was enough. Enough for these platforms to disable private messaging of bad Biden news story links. Whether you think it was true or not, it’s insane that these platforms did this 2 weeks before an election.

threatofrain 6y ago
It's notable that the US local news landscape is dominated by the Sinclair media group. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo
- tootie 6y ago
  "There is bias in the media" Obviously true and uncontroversial. "Some media outlets pursue political agendas from the top down" Seemingly true in a few places "Journalists are authoritarians" Meaningless blanket generalization and definitely false.
  - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
    > Meaningless blanket generalization and definitely false. You're just parsing it uncharitably. Saying journalists are authoritarians is like saying turtles are slow. The fact that you can find the occasional turtle with a rocket sled and is thereby not slow doesn't really disprove the general principle. The context also indicates that he's referring to journalists at specific enumerated publications, in which case it might reasonably refer to the entirety of them if the structure of those institutions is pushing out anyone who isn't.
    - tootie 6y ago
      He pressed that point pretty hard without qualifying it at all. He's both a professional journalist and a lawyer who should be an expert and speaking precisely. He either really means it, or he's deliberately being hyperbolic to obscure the reality. Neither of which reflect well on him.
tootie 6y ago
That's a blanket statement and Greenwald is still connecting a lot of unconnected dots and then adding a completely subjective assertion on top of it. Obviously there was a ton of reporting on the spread of disinformation, hate speech and even foreign sock puppeting on social media because it was all 100% true. If you want to blame "journalists" or "the media" then blame Greenwald too because he's one of them. Otherwise you have to acknowledge there was wide range of public and professional opinion. And that social media orgs have all done what they felt they had to do to protect their businesses bottom lines. Greenwald left The Intercept because his editors had the audacity to ask for edits. That's like living in a Gestapo prison as far as he's concerned. So his absolutely paranoid belief that journalistic authoritarianism is directly to blame for private companies taking action to hide incitement to armed revolution is just far-fetched to me.

by zpeti 6y ago

threatofrain 6y ago

It's notable that the US local news landscape is dominated by the Sinclair media group. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo

tootie 6y ago
"There is bias in the media" Obviously true and uncontroversial. "Some media outlets pursue political agendas from the top down" Seemingly true in a few places "Journalists are authoritarians" Meaningless blanket generalization and definitely false.
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  > Meaningless blanket generalization and definitely false. You're just parsing it uncharitably. Saying journalists are authoritarians is like saying turtles are slow. The fact that you can find the occasional turtle with a rocket sled and is thereby not slow doesn't really disprove the general principle. The context also indicates that he's referring to journalists at specific enumerated publications, in which case it might reasonably refer to the entirety of them if the structure of those institutions is pushing out anyone who isn't.
  - tootie 6y ago
    He pressed that point pretty hard without qualifying it at all. He's both a professional journalist and a lawyer who should be an expert and speaking precisely. He either really means it, or he's deliberately being hyperbolic to obscure the reality. Neither of which reflect well on him.

tootie 6y ago

That's a blanket statement and Greenwald is still connecting a lot of unconnected dots and then adding a completely subjective assertion on top of it. Obviously there was a ton of reporting on the spread of disinformation, hate speech and even foreign sock puppeting on social media because it was all 100% true. If you want to blame "journalists" or "the media" then blame Greenwald too because he's one of them. Otherwise you have to acknowledge there was wide range of public and professional opinion. And that social media orgs have all done what they felt they had to do to protect their businesses bottom lines. Greenwald left The Intercept because his editors had the audacity to ask for edits. That's like living in a Gestapo prison as far as he's concerned. So his absolutely paranoid belief that journalistic authoritarianism is directly to blame for private companies taking action to hide incitement to armed revolution is just far-fetched to me.