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I dont agree with this. Its good to be polite. Also if you throw your question into the chat without first verifying that they are seeing it and responding then

I dont agree with this. Its good to be polite. Also if you throw your question into the chat without first verifying that they are seeing it and responding then you can end up asking the question, then they dont see it, then it hangs around for ages, then they see it hours later when it might not be relevant anymore and it causes confusion. Saying hello is fine, and polite, our social instincts are pretty good generally, dont worry about the 'lost productivity'. There are ephemeral benefits - the feeling of connection as you wait for them to type their question in real time.

ballenf 6y ago
Ask the question and then follow up with a nvm if they take longer to answer than is useful. You can do it politely and explain you got the answer or whatever.
- codeulike 6y ago
  True
oauea 6y ago
hi codeulike - you there? I'd like to reply to your post. Can you please confirm you are available?
vultour 6y ago
You really need to stop doing this, it’s only making people hate you.
- codeulike 6y ago
  Stop doing what?
tene 6y ago
If you believe the comments of people advocating nohello are about "lost productivity", I recommend you try re-reading this comment thread with a bit more empathy, looking for the emotions behind the comments. You mention our social instincts. For a lot of people, nohello is exactly what our social instincts are pushing for. For us, a bare "hello" without any context or information is uncomfortable, and feels rather rude. A big part of politeness, courtesy, and etiquette is helping people feel comfortable, meeting them where they are. For me personally, and I think a lot of others who agree with nohello, a bare "Hello" with no content or context gives me nothing to work with, nothing to say, nothing to grab on to to understand what kind of conversation I'm having. You mention a "feeling of connection" while waiting for someone to type the rest of their question, but to me it only feels like disrespect. When people talk about things you summarize as "lost productivity", it's not about a desire to advocate the interests of the company, but instead it's expressing that for people like us, these kinds of content-free social rituals feel disruptive to the flow of work, and that these disruptions feel irritating, uncomfortable, and disrespectful. It feels like a violation of our culture's etiquette. Feel free to say hello, include as many social pleasantries as you like in your messages, but please also include at least some meaningful content about your goals or intentions.
- codeulike 6y ago
  The website itself mentions lost productivity, I was responding to that. So despite best intentions, you're actually just making the other person wait for you to phrase your question, which is lost productivity

ballenf 6y ago

Ask the question and then follow up with a nvm if they take longer to answer than is useful. You can do it politely and explain you got the answer or whatever.

codeulike 6y ago
True

oauea 6y ago

hi codeulike - you there? I'd like to reply to your post. Can you please confirm you are available?

vultour 6y ago

You really need to stop doing this, it’s only making people hate you.

codeulike 6y ago
Stop doing what?

tene 6y ago

If you believe the comments of people advocating nohello are about "lost productivity", I recommend you try re-reading this comment thread with a bit more empathy, looking for the emotions behind the comments. You mention our social instincts. For a lot of people, nohello is exactly what our social instincts are pushing for. For us, a bare "hello" without any context or information is uncomfortable, and feels rather rude. A big part of politeness, courtesy, and etiquette is helping people feel comfortable, meeting them where they are. For me personally, and I think a lot of others who agree with nohello, a bare "Hello" with no content or context gives me nothing to work with, nothing to say, nothing to grab on to to understand what kind of conversation I'm having. You mention a "feeling of connection" while waiting for someone to type the rest of their question, but to me it only feels like disrespect. When people talk about things you summarize as "lost productivity", it's not about a desire to advocate the interests of the company, but instead it's expressing that for people like us, these kinds of content-free social rituals feel disruptive to the flow of work, and that these disruptions feel irritating, uncomfortable, and disrespectful. It feels like a violation of our culture's etiquette. Feel free to say hello, include as many social pleasantries as you like in your messages, but please also include at least some meaningful content about your goals or intentions.

codeulike 6y ago
The website itself mentions lost productivity, I was responding to that. So despite best intentions, you're actually just making the other person wait for you to phrase your question, which is lost productivity