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yikes, what a sleazebag. Larry hit the anti-Semitic trifecta (Jews, Israel and media moguls in bed with politicians) in under a minute of just random chit chat.
by qqj 6y ago
yikes, what a sleazebag. Larry hit the anti-Semitic trifecta (Jews, Israel and media moguls in bed with politicians) in under a minute of just random chit chat. The mind reels at the shady backroom deals this man was responsible for.
- xeromal 6y agoI'm being 100% honest here. I'm having a hard time following what he said or the meaning behind it at least. Care to elaborate?
- nickdonnelly 6y agoLong and short of it: Ted Turner is the guy who created CNN, a very influential news source in the US. Many people consider CNN to be a "left-wing" news source, and in the clip King talks to Bill Clinton, a democratic politician, about Ted Turner "serving" Clinton after he was elected president. The use of the word "serving" is the issue, as it sounds like a quid pro quo.
- syshum 6y ago>> Many people consider CNN to be a "left-wing" news source Are their people that do see the clear bias of the network? This is like saying "Many people consider Fox news to be a "right wing" network" There is no doubt of the political leanings of either network. CNN is/was not called Clinton News Network for nothing.....
- umanwizard 6y agoCNN is not really “left-wing” in a broad ideological sense. It’s the unofficial mouthpiece of the Democratic Party and the “liberal” side of the US culture war. Note for example how poorly they treated Sanders who was further left than any of the other mainstream candidates.
- syshum 6y agoIt is 100% NOT the liberal side of the cultural war. There really is no liberal side The right side is theological authoritarian, the Left side is illiberal Identitarianism which is ironic because identitarianism started out as a "far right" ideology but in a real world example of the horseshoe theory of politics has become far-left authoritarian
- JohnJamesRambo 6y agoI'm tired of fact-based and reason-based news being painted as 'left-wing". CNN is just the news. I miss when we all watched the same news and it tried to be objective and half the country wasn't watching provably false news and wanting to split off into madness and domestic terror cells and make the human race go backwards.
- mattcwilson 6y agoThere is a difference between “this news source strikes me as not being too politically extreme in either direction compared to my own views” and “this news source is completely neutral and objective with respect to all political views.” How can you be sure you’re not seeing the former and calling it the latter?
- syshum 6y agoIf you believe CNN is "just the news" then you are suffering from reinforcing confirmation bias as well as echo chamber. You agree with the positions CNN takes there for it is "news" and outlets that have differing positions to those you agree with are "fake news" and "want to make the human race go backwards"
- qqj 6y agoYou have to see this through 90's lens: back then the media wasn't nearly as polarized, and the public had much greater trust in news networks, especially in CNN. "Fake news" was mostly relegated to the domain of conspiracy theories, and blatant promotions of political agendas as neutral news wouldn't fly back then (although, of course, the networks did have an agenda and did promote it, but they were... much more subtle and civil about the whole thing).
- syshum 6y agoI was alive, and consuming news in the 90's In the 90's the bias was shown in the stories they choose to cover and what they choose to ignore not in the coverage itself this is still true today but now in addition to this bias there is almost zero "strait" reporting, everything has political commentary mixed in, some more subtle than others but it is still there. Even in places like APnews where it is more subtle
- fattire 6y agoIt could just as easily mean "serve" as in your administration-- in a cabinet position for example.
- qqj 6y agoThe way I interpret it, Mr. King is suggesting to Clinton he (Clinton) might be interested in establishing a reciprocal relationship with one of most prominent media moguls and politically influential billionaires, Ted Turner. Teddy helps Billy with the optics on CNN, maybe funding various campaigns, and in turn Billy helps Teddy with his own projects, like I dunno, passing a bill to kill off competitors and so on. The yin and yang that are Politics and Media.
- fattire 6y agoYou're reading QUITE a bit into that.
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- fattire 6y agoNothing especially bad. He talks about how incredible it is he reaches so many countries with his broadcast-- at the time a staggering thought-- and to illustrate tells a story of seeing a praying Rabbi at the Wailing/Western wall in Jerusalem who turns to ask king about domestic US politics (Ross Perot, who ran against Clinton and Bush). Then he basically says Ted Turner, founder of CNN, is a nice guy to work for and is a fan of Clinton (as if he is not allowed to be?) and could "serve you" whatever that means which I guess could be as ominous as your imagination allows but probably means in his administration. There is zero antisemitism expressed. Only Larry King and the Israeli rabbi interested in American politics are Jewish. Clinton, Perot, and Turner are not. The claimed outrage is absurd.
- lotsofpulp 6y ago> There is zero antisemitism expressed. I believe qqj was saying it’s ammo for anti semites that hits those 3 accusations, not that Larry King was expressing anti semitism.
- fattire 6y agoI dunno, who do you think he was saying was the sleazebag? I don't see the "ammo" here-- neither Turner and Clinton are Jewish.
- TameAntelope 6y ago"Serve in an administration" is a fairly common phrase, I believe is the only important additional context needed.