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Some people have a couple of kids, and need more groceries that can be done that way. Some times there is this thing called "inclement weather" which means it r

by Noos 6y ago

Some people have a couple of kids, and need more groceries that can be done that way. Some times there is this thing called "inclement weather" which means it rains 2-3 days in a row and makes doing this miserable. Or you work a double shift and are too tired to get groceries, or you work 2nd shift and everything is closed on the way back except convenience stores. Or you get sick and can't actually go out to get food for a few days. There's so much of a bubble here sometimes. Narrow minded...dude, not everyone is a single, childless, wealthy knowledge worker that can waste their time to do this.

Xylakant 6y ago
I have kids and deal with inclement weather - it’s been a mix of rain and snow for most of the last couple of days. Granted, I’m a knowledge worker, but shops are open until midnight in the neighborhood and worst case, both of the large supermarket chains here deliver until late with prearranged slots. For the majority of (urban) people it’s definitely manageable. More than 50% of all households in central Berlin own no car, numbers rising. I used to own a car, and the tipping point from “I can’t do that” to “no problem to do that” was selling the car. It’s an acquired habit for most of us. I now own an umbrella and a good waterproof jacket instead.
oblio 6y ago
I have kids. I know a lot of people that have kids. Again, narrow mindedness. You don't just go to buy STRICTLY what you need today. You buy something like 10% over each time. Within several weeks of shopping you'll have a full fridge, heck, even a full pantry. Then you only need to top up when you go each day. And I'm being generous, you can go every 2-3 days, even. There are comfortable solution, you need two things: 1. An environment that helps (most European cities). 2. A bit of planning/flexibility/smarts. If you don't have 1. you're dead in the water, from the start. If you don't have 2., well... get them :-)
- HeyLaughingBoy 6y ago
  And the point of most of the US-centric replies to this subthread is that ...drumroll... we usually don't have 1.
  - oblio 6y ago
    > Typically in such neighborhoods in *Europe* Thankfully, I intervened when great grand parent comment said the above. Ba-dum-tss?

by Noos 6y ago

Xylakant 6y ago

I have kids and deal with inclement weather - it’s been a mix of rain and snow for most of the last couple of days. Granted, I’m a knowledge worker, but shops are open until midnight in the neighborhood and worst case, both of the large supermarket chains here deliver until late with prearranged slots. For the majority of (urban) people it’s definitely manageable. More than 50% of all households in central Berlin own no car, numbers rising. I used to own a car, and the tipping point from “I can’t do that” to “no problem to do that” was selling the car. It’s an acquired habit for most of us. I now own an umbrella and a good waterproof jacket instead.

oblio 6y ago

I have kids. I know a lot of people that have kids. Again, narrow mindedness. You don't just go to buy STRICTLY what you need today. You buy something like 10% over each time. Within several weeks of shopping you'll have a full fridge, heck, even a full pantry. Then you only need to top up when you go each day. And I'm being generous, you can go every 2-3 days, even. There are comfortable solution, you need two things: 1. An environment that helps (most European cities). 2. A bit of planning/flexibility/smarts. If you don't have 1. you're dead in the water, from the start. If you don't have 2., well... get them :-)

HeyLaughingBoy 6y ago
And the point of most of the US-centric replies to this subthread is that ...drumroll... we usually don't have 1.
- oblio 6y ago
  > Typically in such neighborhoods in *Europe* Thankfully, I intervened when great grand parent comment said the above. Ba-dum-tss?