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Not to be flippant, but hasn't this kind of thing been going on since long before the internet? It sounds like the addition of social media has created a media

Not to be flippant, but hasn't this kind of thing been going on since long before the internet? It sounds like the addition of social media has created a media circus, rather than a new problem itself.

aaron695 6y ago
Clearly this is a game kids have always played. I'd think most adults know of it. We have records 100 years ago of this game, I assumes there would be records further if someone looks. This also sounds like typical moral panic, it's a pretty shitty "high". > to their brain in order to get high. It'd be nice to put a bit more structure to all this. Are deaths going up for this particular game, is it more dangerous because participants do it alone, are children doing it younger. Are suicides and other things that kill the youth down because of social media.
- BenjiWiebe 6y ago
  My off the cuff guess would be that social media has increased the rate of teen suicides.
tgv 6y ago
Would the girl have done it, and died, without TikTok, that's the question.
- tokai 6y ago
  «Youth who participate alone in the choking game are a particularly high risk group, exhibiting substantially higher rates of suicidal ideation and poorer mental health compared with youth who participate in the choking game in a group.» I would guess her risk was elevated. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/138/6/e20160778 https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/138/6/e201607...
  - tgv 6y ago
    That doesn't mean much without knowing why they did it while alone. What does "participation" in that context even mean? And it doesn't change the possibility that a "challenge" on social media had an influence. Any guesses about the risk she was in a priori are not relevant, and cannot be determined from that paper.
- packersville 6y ago
  No, they are wondering if this type of activity has been going on all along but now the internet just informs us of the case by case.
- powerapple 6y ago
  I remember when I was in primary school, there was a popular game where you press the chest of another person, cause suffocation and the other person will faint and fall. It was before internet was common and no smart phones. I heard story that kid has died, but I could never verify. My opinion is that tragedy happens with or without internet, internet spreads news faster and further.

aaron695 6y ago

Clearly this is a game kids have always played. I'd think most adults know of it. We have records 100 years ago of this game, I assumes there would be records further if someone looks. This also sounds like typical moral panic, it's a pretty shitty "high". > to their brain in order to get high. It'd be nice to put a bit more structure to all this. Are deaths going up for this particular game, is it more dangerous because participants do it alone, are children doing it younger. Are suicides and other things that kill the youth down because of social media.

BenjiWiebe 6y ago
My off the cuff guess would be that social media has increased the rate of teen suicides.

tgv 6y ago

Would the girl have done it, and died, without TikTok, that's the question.

tokai 6y ago
«Youth who participate alone in the choking game are a particularly high risk group, exhibiting substantially higher rates of suicidal ideation and poorer mental health compared with youth who participate in the choking game in a group.» I would guess her risk was elevated. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/138/6/e20160778 https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/138/6/e201607...
- tgv 6y ago
  That doesn't mean much without knowing why they did it while alone. What does "participation" in that context even mean? And it doesn't change the possibility that a "challenge" on social media had an influence. Any guesses about the risk she was in a priori are not relevant, and cannot be determined from that paper.
packersville 6y ago
No, they are wondering if this type of activity has been going on all along but now the internet just informs us of the case by case.
powerapple 6y ago
I remember when I was in primary school, there was a popular game where you press the chest of another person, cause suffocation and the other person will faint and fall. It was before internet was common and no smart phones. I heard story that kid has died, but I could never verify. My opinion is that tragedy happens with or without internet, internet spreads news faster and further.