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I’m literally a euro-peasant in my third floor apartment with street parking outside my third floor apartment window. The city has but up a bunch of charging pa

I’m literally a euro-peasant in my third floor apartment with street parking outside my third floor apartment window. The city has but up a bunch of charging parking stations on said street parking and it’s great. There are no gas stations on the ”island” (Södermalm, Stockholm) I live on, but a ton of electric street parking charging stations. I think the decentralisation of these types of charging stations will win in the end. The price of electric cars currently is a problem though, but everything is pointing in the right direction.

whatever1 6y ago
Let's take Madrid as an example of a typical densely populated euro-city. ~ 3M population, half a million registered cars. I really don't see it economically, environmentally, or even technically viable to install a quarter million chargers to fix the battery charging problem.
- erikrothoff 6y ago
  Why would a quarter of a million chargers be needed? Seems really excessive.
  - whatever1 6y ago
    Because every car needs to charge 1-2 times per week and you also don't want to park 10 blocks away from home. Maybe 50% coverage is indeed excessive, but it is correct ballpark estimate. Maybe you can get away with 20-30% in cities with less lazy (and more coordinated) people :)
- theshrike79 6y ago
  Only if none of the 500k cars can be charged at home.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
  Many of these already have lampposts. If the wiring isn't strong enough to support chargers (it might, for slow charging, if the cables were designed for old lighting technology), fine, dig up the street, lay thicker cables, use the opportunity to bury FTTH, and you can now place a charger at every parking bay.
vishnugupta 6y ago
> The city has but up a bunch of charging parking stations on said street parking and it’s great I noticed this in Amsterdam. Over a year period (late 2018 - late 2020), the street-parking-charging-stations went from virtually non-existent to about 2-3 in a 1KM radius and increasing. I guess it's logistically easier to build such a charging network compared to say gas stations. They take very little space, about a square foot and ~1.5 meter tall.
- JoeAltmaier 6y ago
  They could replace service station charging, but you'd need an app that navigated you to one that's available. And make a reservation, so you didn't keep heading toward the nearest just to find it occupied. And if they were in interesting locations e.g. near a restaurant or shopping or bathrooms or a coffee shop. But that sounds just like a service station.

whatever1 6y ago

Let's take Madrid as an example of a typical densely populated euro-city. ~ 3M population, half a million registered cars. I really don't see it economically, environmentally, or even technically viable to install a quarter million chargers to fix the battery charging problem.

erikrothoff 6y ago
Why would a quarter of a million chargers be needed? Seems really excessive.
- whatever1 6y ago
  Because every car needs to charge 1-2 times per week and you also don't want to park 10 blocks away from home. Maybe 50% coverage is indeed excessive, but it is correct ballpark estimate. Maybe you can get away with 20-30% in cities with less lazy (and more coordinated) people :)
theshrike79 6y ago
Only if none of the 500k cars can be charged at home.
tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
Many of these already have lampposts. If the wiring isn't strong enough to support chargers (it might, for slow charging, if the cables were designed for old lighting technology), fine, dig up the street, lay thicker cables, use the opportunity to bury FTTH, and you can now place a charger at every parking bay.

vishnugupta 6y ago

> The city has but up a bunch of charging parking stations on said street parking and it’s great I noticed this in Amsterdam. Over a year period (late 2018 - late 2020), the street-parking-charging-stations went from virtually non-existent to about 2-3 in a 1KM radius and increasing. I guess it's logistically easier to build such a charging network compared to say gas stations. They take very little space, about a square foot and ~1.5 meter tall.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago
They could replace service station charging, but you'd need an app that navigated you to one that's available. And make a reservation, so you didn't keep heading toward the nearest just to find it occupied. And if they were in interesting locations e.g. near a restaurant or shopping or bathrooms or a coffee shop. But that sounds just like a service station.