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Another Big Tech bluff.

0xy 6y ago
I don't think it's a bluff. Amazon threatened to shutdown in France entirely if they were forced to pull off sale restrictions in an impossible amount of time and their French warehouses went offline entirely, as promised. Google is betting the government doesn't have the political capital to fight them, and they're probably right.
- firecall 6y ago
  The mostly Murdoch owned media is behind this. Many Australians have no love for the right wing fascist breading Murdoch media. Many of us support Google on this.
  - kdtsh 6y ago
    Many people just see the mostly dishonest by-lines on Google Search talking about how the Australian government is threatening media in Australia and formulate their decision based on that. Honestly, if I had to choose to support either a tech giant with an enormous amount of control over the content we consume and surround ourselves with, or a media giant with an enormous amount of control over the content we consume and surround ourselves with, I am going to have a hard time choosing. Ultimately, we lose either way - either traditional media remains entrenched, or it remains prohibitively difficult for all content producers (especially smaller, independent ones) to effectively produce content in a way which is not cost-prohibitive. Maybe the code being considered should be reconsidered - but that does not seem to be up for question. Still, I hope Australia calls Google’s bluff, because this style of negotiation should send chills down the spine of people who support a democratic society. It is purely in bad faith - it is not a fair negotiation of one party with enormous bargaining power makes this kind of ultimatum at the first hurdle. Also, despite Murdoch’s media empire being behind legislative efforts here, even the ABC is behind it. I take Aunty’s opinions on these kinds of things quite seriously, and if they think this action from Google is damaging, I am inclined to agree.
  - 0xy 6y ago
    Many, but evidently not a majority. News Corp's web properties outrank ABC Australia, including the clickbaity news.com.au. I also think it's a little bit disingenuous to call it "right wing fascist" news, given it's the most popular. By extension you're calling most Australians right wing fascists, when according to research the majority of Australians support immigration, for example. So essentially you're saying the immigration-supporting majority of Australians are right-wing fascists, no?

0xy 6y ago

I don't think it's a bluff. Amazon threatened to shutdown in France entirely if they were forced to pull off sale restrictions in an impossible amount of time and their French warehouses went offline entirely, as promised. Google is betting the government doesn't have the political capital to fight them, and they're probably right.

firecall 6y ago
The mostly Murdoch owned media is behind this. Many Australians have no love for the right wing fascist breading Murdoch media. Many of us support Google on this.
- kdtsh 6y ago
  Many people just see the mostly dishonest by-lines on Google Search talking about how the Australian government is threatening media in Australia and formulate their decision based on that. Honestly, if I had to choose to support either a tech giant with an enormous amount of control over the content we consume and surround ourselves with, or a media giant with an enormous amount of control over the content we consume and surround ourselves with, I am going to have a hard time choosing. Ultimately, we lose either way - either traditional media remains entrenched, or it remains prohibitively difficult for all content producers (especially smaller, independent ones) to effectively produce content in a way which is not cost-prohibitive. Maybe the code being considered should be reconsidered - but that does not seem to be up for question. Still, I hope Australia calls Google’s bluff, because this style of negotiation should send chills down the spine of people who support a democratic society. It is purely in bad faith - it is not a fair negotiation of one party with enormous bargaining power makes this kind of ultimatum at the first hurdle. Also, despite Murdoch’s media empire being behind legislative efforts here, even the ABC is behind it. I take Aunty’s opinions on these kinds of things quite seriously, and if they think this action from Google is damaging, I am inclined to agree.
- 0xy 6y ago
  Many, but evidently not a majority. News Corp's web properties outrank ABC Australia, including the clickbaity news.com.au. I also think it's a little bit disingenuous to call it "right wing fascist" news, given it's the most popular. By extension you're calling most Australians right wing fascists, when according to research the majority of Australians support immigration, for example. So essentially you're saying the immigration-supporting majority of Australians are right-wing fascists, no?