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Bluetooth Attack Can Steal a Tesla Model X in Minutes
- xedeon 6y agoThis won't work if PIN to drive is enabled. Most Europeans have on enabled since sophisticated attacks like these are prevalent there. https://www.tesla.com/support/car-safety-security-features#pin-to-drive https://www.tesla.com/support/car-safety-security-features#p...
- tmpxgdqrcKFuG 6y agoSo, what I hear you saying is to try this in the US
- koolba 6y agoA bit off topic, but wtf is this? > Will I have access to images captured by the Cabin Camera? > No. You will not be able to view the images captured by the Cabin Camera as it’s not associated with your VIN and is intended for analysis to continue to improve vehicle safety.
- userbinator 6y agoIf you buy a Tesla, it's not really your car, but a mass surveillance machine disguised as one.
- ggreer 6y agoThe same logic applies to most phones, every voice assistant, and to most cars sold today. Tesla isn't even the first car company to collect all this data. GM did it with OnStar.
- userbinator 6y agoGM did it with OnStar. AFAIK that is location and audio, which while still creepy, is not nearly the same as pointing a camera at you.
- nbzso 6y agoAnd your driving behaviour is free data for training the auto pilot. The tech fetishism is actually clear indication of how badly informed people live without critical thinking. And prevailing argument is that there is no alternative future with privacy and regulations on big tech. What a dystopian dream.
- xedeon 6y agoThe Cabin Camera is disabled by default. It's a manual opt-in.
- shostack 6y agoIf it's not associated with the VIN, what is it associated with?
- gamblor956 6y agoThis was previously discussed when the article was first written...back in November 2020. I can't find the link on my phone, will update or reply with it later.
- slovette 6y agoNot to be ignorant, but: So what? What are they going to do with my car once they have it, Tesla’s notified it’s stolen for when the car phones home and I’m driving off in my new X the insurance company bought me. The same insurance company that now has ALL the data Tesla has about the car and some real mean lawyers going after whoever it was that stole it so they can recoup their money. Maybe I’m blind, but the risk/reward on stealing a Tesla just isn’t there like stealing fancy cars was back in the 90’s. I know criminals aren’t always the smartest on the block, but even with the dumb ones, why should I care?
- sensitive-ears 6y agoMostly they get taken across country borders and broken down into parts. Not a lot of traceability left after that.
- slovette 6y agoYa, I hear that. But the whole time the car is moving it’s phoning back location data. These thieves would have to be SUPER sophisticated in their attacks and even then, one slip in a very unique theft procedure and the whole operation is compromised entirely by some heavy weight consequences. I just don’t really see it.
- sschueller 6y agoFaraday cages and fabric...
- slovette 6y agoHaha. “Billy! Gitta roll chicken wire and that there trickle charger. We bout to git ourselves of em Teaslas.”
- Veserv 6y agoThey can just turn off the internet connection. If that doesn't work then they can just destroy the transmitter/receiver if they are going to part it out anyways.
- motohagiography 6y agoWait, who is dumber, the person who steals the Tesla, or the person who buys a stolen Tesla? It's a tracking device on wheels with hardly any valuable moving parts. It doesn't make any sense.
- TwoBit 6y agoNobody would buy a stolen Tesla, but lots of people might buy stolen Tesla parts.
- GhostVII 6y agoYou need to be within 15 feet of the owners key fob at some point for this to work, so it doesn't seem like a super realistic attack. I think it's pretty rare for a car thief to target a particular person, rather than just stealing a random car on a quiet block.
- FireBeyond 6y agoReally? You don't see cars parked in the driveway? Many people will have their wallet and key sitting on a side table right inside the front door. Not sure why that seems so rare.
- mhh__ 6y ago> You need to be within 15 feet of the owners key fob at some point for this to work, so it doesn't seem like a super realistic attack. 1) Look for Tesla parked or parking 2) Either Follow or wait for Tesla owner, distract them long enough to exploit the vulnerability. 3) [No ambiguity this time actually] 4) Profit
- jacquesm 6y agoThere are similar attacks on late model Mercedes' with two way amplification of the signal of the fob and the response from the car. It looks like two pizzaboxes and a laptop.
- LeoPanthera 6y agoI just bought a new X. "Passive entry" was disabled by default, and it needs to be enabled for this attack to work. If you enable it, the UI recommends you also enable "PIN to drive", which also defeats this attack.