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it's always interesting to see non-Russians comment on this kind of news. for Russians well aware of rampant corruption in post-Soviet countries, it's more of a

it's always interesting to see non-Russians comment on this kind of news. for Russians well aware of rampant corruption in post-Soviet countries, it's more of an eye roll than anything else. Russia is infamously corrupt as a result of the legacy of Soviet mentalities that made free market enterprise inherently black market. until the justice system is cleaned up and held accountable, russian will remain a corrupt 3rd world country unable to compete in the global business rena.

veyron 15y ago
if this is the extent of the problem, i dare say India and China are more corrupt
- alexro 15y ago
  you can't really compare corruption, can you?
  - veyron 15y ago
    Oh yes you can! There are a few criteria: 1) Is the corruption social or economic in nature? ie in India, many years ago, it was impossible for someone from lower castes to become priests. An economic corruption at least has a remote chance of being breached by anyone 2) Is the corruption racial or religious or gender-based? I guess this is better termed "discrimination" 3) Is there a way to join the corrupted? ie if the police force and military are corrupt, is there a way to join them? There are versions of corruption for which most people are physically unable to rise, and versions of corruption for which a clever few are able to swim with the sharks
  - edj 15y ago
    Why not? The Corruption Perception Index[1] is the most famous attempt to do so. In their 0-10 scale--higher numbers being less corrupt--Russia is ranked at 2.1, India at 3.3, and China at 3.5. [1]: http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010 http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/...
Simon_M 15y ago
So are 1 in 3 prisoners corrupt businessmen who have been jailed for their 'corruptness'. Or are 1 in 3 prisoners businessmen unjustly jailed due to corrupt officials?
- jeffool 15y ago
  Can't there be a mix? Maybe each is 1 in 6?

veyron 15y ago

if this is the extent of the problem, i dare say India and China are more corrupt

alexro 15y ago
you can't really compare corruption, can you?
- veyron 15y ago
  Oh yes you can! There are a few criteria: 1) Is the corruption social or economic in nature? ie in India, many years ago, it was impossible for someone from lower castes to become priests. An economic corruption at least has a remote chance of being breached by anyone 2) Is the corruption racial or religious or gender-based? I guess this is better termed "discrimination" 3) Is there a way to join the corrupted? ie if the police force and military are corrupt, is there a way to join them? There are versions of corruption for which most people are physically unable to rise, and versions of corruption for which a clever few are able to swim with the sharks
- edj 15y ago
  Why not? The Corruption Perception Index[1] is the most famous attempt to do so. In their 0-10 scale--higher numbers being less corrupt--Russia is ranked at 2.1, India at 3.3, and China at 3.5. [1]: http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010 http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/...

Simon_M 15y ago

So are 1 in 3 prisoners corrupt businessmen who have been jailed for their 'corruptness'. Or are 1 in 3 prisoners businessmen unjustly jailed due to corrupt officials?

jeffool 15y ago
Can't there be a mix? Maybe each is 1 in 6?