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> With an internal repository, everyone in your enterprise will be able to view the Page with the same credentials they use to login to github.com Public servi

> With an internal repository, everyone in your enterprise will be able to view the Page with the same credentials they use to login to github.com Public service announcement: "login" is a noun; as a verb, you should write "log in". (Consider "knockout" vs. "knock out".) Another thing to watch out for: writing "setup" instead of "set up".

hanniabu 6y ago
Wow, thank you for clarifying this. I was actually wondering about this yesterday and just figured they could be used interchangeably but I also knew that in certain cases writing it a certain way just made more sense but I never knew the noun/verb rule behind it. I feel stupid now lol.
tshaddox 6y ago
If you're fond of this rule and want to remember to follow it, just consider how you would write the past tense of the verb.
- jhardy54 6y ago
  Nitpick: This works for "logged in", but not "set up".
  - asidiali 6y ago
    Is setting up?
    - jhardy54 6y ago
      They said "past tense" whereas "setting up" is the present participle tense.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    “Set us up the bomb”
- richdougherty 6y ago
  Verb: LOG IN => - they LOGGED IN - the user LOGS IN - when LOGGING IN Noun: LOGIN => - a LOGIN - some LOGINS References: https://grammarist.com/spelling/log-in-login/ https://grammarist.com/spelling/log-in-login/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrasal_verb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrasal_verb
- rzzzt 6y ago
  Login, logan, logun? I kind of like the idea.
- hunter2_ 6y ago
  Similar logic comes into play with mic (noun) and mike (verb). "They miked (or they're miking) the drums with several mics." We avoid mic (verb) because the "k" works so much better than "c" when leading into various verb endings like -ed and -ing. It's the same reason we add "k" to the word traffic to form words like trafficking; we would interpret the "c" softly ("s" sound) if it was followed by a vowel. But in this case we replace it with "k" instead of adding "k" to maintain the long "i" which would shorten if followed by more than one consonant. Mic (noun only) is great as a truncation of microphone, though.
benatkin 6y ago
This is like saying that it's "start-up" and not "startup" 10 years ago.
- dataflow 6y ago
  Both were always nouns though, right?
- OJFord 6y ago
  No, it's like pointing out that you don't startup a startup, ten years ago nor now.
dataflow 6y ago
Also backup vs. back up.
rjmorris 6y ago
And here I thought I was the only one who still cared about this, given how often I see it the verb form written as a noun. The English language evolves, however, and I'm coming to accept that this one is well on its way to being considered correct usage, so I'm doing my best not to let it bother me.
rurcliped 6y ago
Microsoft apparently doesn't want "log in" to be used, and favors "sign in" instead: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-term-collections/s/sign-in-sign-out https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-t...
- hunter2_ 6y ago
  I can get on board with 99% of that as being stuff a style guide can reasonably standardize for organizational voice, but the one thing that doesn't sit well with me is preferring "in to" over "into" in the second example at the end: "Learn how to sign in to Power BI" seems like it wants to use "into" for the same reason we would use that compound word any other time it should be used.
  - kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
    "sign in" is a verbal phrase. You can't merge "in" with "to" without losing its meaning.
    - hunter2_ 6y ago
      Perhaps my grammer isn't as sharp as it should be, but I don't understand how "go in" would be any different. We say "please go in" and "please go into the room" without any issues, I think. What is fundamentally different between "sign in" and "go in" leading to this style guide not also discouraging "go into?" I don't interpret a meaningful difference between "can not" and "cannot," nor between "any more" and "anymore;" thus, I don't find a meaningful difference between "in to" and "into."
impulser_ 6y ago
Does it really matter if everyone reading it understands it?

hanniabu 6y ago

Wow, thank you for clarifying this. I was actually wondering about this yesterday and just figured they could be used interchangeably but I also knew that in certain cases writing it a certain way just made more sense but I never knew the noun/verb rule behind it. I feel stupid now lol.

tshaddox 6y ago

If you're fond of this rule and want to remember to follow it, just consider how you would write the past tense of the verb.

jhardy54 6y ago
Nitpick: This works for "logged in", but not "set up".
- asidiali 6y ago
  Is setting up?
  - jhardy54 6y ago
    They said "past tense" whereas "setting up" is the present participle tense.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  “Set us up the bomb”
richdougherty 6y ago
Verb: LOG IN => - they LOGGED IN - the user LOGS IN - when LOGGING IN Noun: LOGIN => - a LOGIN - some LOGINS References: https://grammarist.com/spelling/log-in-login/ https://grammarist.com/spelling/log-in-login/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrasal_verb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrasal_verb
rzzzt 6y ago
Login, logan, logun? I kind of like the idea.
hunter2_ 6y ago
Similar logic comes into play with mic (noun) and mike (verb). "They miked (or they're miking) the drums with several mics." We avoid mic (verb) because the "k" works so much better than "c" when leading into various verb endings like -ed and -ing. It's the same reason we add "k" to the word traffic to form words like trafficking; we would interpret the "c" softly ("s" sound) if it was followed by a vowel. But in this case we replace it with "k" instead of adding "k" to maintain the long "i" which would shorten if followed by more than one consonant. Mic (noun only) is great as a truncation of microphone, though.

benatkin 6y ago

This is like saying that it's "start-up" and not "startup" 10 years ago.

dataflow 6y ago
Both were always nouns though, right?
OJFord 6y ago
No, it's like pointing out that you don't startup a startup, ten years ago nor now.

dataflow 6y ago

Also backup vs. back up.

rjmorris 6y ago

And here I thought I was the only one who still cared about this, given how often I see it the verb form written as a noun. The English language evolves, however, and I'm coming to accept that this one is well on its way to being considered correct usage, so I'm doing my best not to let it bother me.

rurcliped 6y ago

Microsoft apparently doesn't want "log in" to be used, and favors "sign in" instead: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-term-collections/s/sign-in-sign-out https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-t...

hunter2_ 6y ago
I can get on board with 99% of that as being stuff a style guide can reasonably standardize for organizational voice, but the one thing that doesn't sit well with me is preferring "in to" over "into" in the second example at the end: "Learn how to sign in to Power BI" seems like it wants to use "into" for the same reason we would use that compound word any other time it should be used.
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  "sign in" is a verbal phrase. You can't merge "in" with "to" without losing its meaning.
  - hunter2_ 6y ago
    Perhaps my grammer isn't as sharp as it should be, but I don't understand how "go in" would be any different. We say "please go in" and "please go into the room" without any issues, I think. What is fundamentally different between "sign in" and "go in" leading to this style guide not also discouraging "go into?" I don't interpret a meaningful difference between "can not" and "cannot," nor between "any more" and "anymore;" thus, I don't find a meaningful difference between "in to" and "into."

impulser_ 6y ago

Does it really matter if everyone reading it understands it?