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I appreciated the feedback. I agree that my wording probably set people off-- I definitely got a bit tilted after 4 or 5 different people decided to explain to

by gisely 6y ago

I appreciated the feedback. I agree that my wording probably set people off-- I definitely got a bit tilted after 4 or 5 different people decided to explain to me that the problem was I just didn't get the joke. My original comment though was pretty much just noting what had been said the article though. This was deemed an attempt to start a flamewar by dang. I think fostering a community for thoughtful and civil discussion is a noble goal. The trouble is I don't think you achieve a thoughtful discussion by labeling as inflammatory any criticism of people this community venerates.

dang 6y ago
You posted 3 or 4 escalating comments that were way over the top. That's obviously not ok, and it's all I was reacting to. Nothing else. Please don't do it again. That's all. "Labeling as inflammatory any criticism of people this community venerates" is not a thing. Actually there's not even such a thing as "people this community venerates". Any $person venerated by some is criticized by others, and you'll find plenty of such criticism in HN threads. If you have that impression, you might be falling prey to the notice-dislike bias: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=notice%20dislike%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor..., a form of sample bias where the massively greater impact of the data points one dislikes leads to false feelings of generality. We all seem to suffer from this.
- gisely 6y ago
  What was wrong with my first comment that you chastised me for?
  - dang 6y ago
    It was snarky, flamebait, and implausible, so it broke at least three of the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html None of this is hard to understand, so please stop now. Everybody goes on tilt at some point—I certainly have. The main thing is just to learn from it and avoid doing it again.
    - gisely 6y ago
      What I learned from it is that it this isn't a community I want to participate in. It will be easier now for everyone here to enjoy jokes about awful things they would do journalists if only it weren't for the Geneva conventions without feeling guilty.

by gisely 6y ago

dang 6y ago

You posted 3 or 4 escalating comments that were way over the top. That's obviously not ok, and it's all I was reacting to. Nothing else. Please don't do it again. That's all. "Labeling as inflammatory any criticism of people this community venerates" is not a thing. Actually there's not even such a thing as "people this community venerates". Any $person venerated by some is criticized by others, and you'll find plenty of such criticism in HN threads. If you have that impression, you might be falling prey to the notice-dislike bias: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=notice%20dislike%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor..., a form of sample bias where the massively greater impact of the data points one dislikes leads to false feelings of generality. We all seem to suffer from this.

gisely 6y ago
What was wrong with my first comment that you chastised me for?
- dang 6y ago
  It was snarky, flamebait, and implausible, so it broke at least three of the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html None of this is hard to understand, so please stop now. Everybody goes on tilt at some point—I certainly have. The main thing is just to learn from it and avoid doing it again.
  - gisely 6y ago
    What I learned from it is that it this isn't a community I want to participate in. It will be easier now for everyone here to enjoy jokes about awful things they would do journalists if only it weren't for the Geneva conventions without feeling guilty.