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tmobile still steals DNS requests to their weird search page? that alone would get them very low grades in my book.

by gcblkjaidfj 6y ago

arcticbull 6y ago
Aways set your DNS, preferably to 1.1.1.1
- gcblkjaidfj 6y ago
  Google won't allow you on non rooted android phones. > cue in google apologists telling me how to root or install hacks to do that and that it is totally possible
  - Toutouxc 6y ago
    How does it work? Does an Android on my WiFi just ignore the DHCP provided DNS, or..?
    - grahamburger 6y ago
      They're forcing DoH, DNS over HTTPS.
  - isiahl 6y ago
    Just tested with my S9+ and could change my DNS settings
  - alias_neo 6y ago
    On newer Android versions there's a setting called "Private DNS", I usually set it to Cloudflare IPv6 DNS. There is 100% some funky shit going on in Android though; I was working on a project the other night and my phone absolutely refused to connect to the service on my PC. My phone and tablet both on Android simply gave me "no route to host" or timeouts even with data disabled and WiFi only set; this is connecting directly to IPs no hosts/DNS. Of course I assumed the firewall was up until I confirmed every other computing device I can access was able to hit it. Why is my phone messing with my networking on my private network?
  - the_pwner224 6y ago
    You can edit the wifi network and change from DHCP to static IP. Then you can set the DNS for that network right there. You run the risk where your phone is set to always use 192.168.1.147 but another device @ .147 is already connected via DHCP, but it's not really a thing that will happen because the chances are so low. And it's a bit hard on public WiFi where finding the gateway, subnet mask, etc. could be hard, or there might be some access control mechanism on the network side. But for a large amount of people, setting the DNS on their home WiFi with this method would cover 50-90%+ of network usage. No root required. > cue in google apologists telling me how to root or install hacks to do that and that it is totally possible I'm not a google apologist btw. Running lineageos with no gapps. With a root-based workaround to get around Google's stupid/illogical/incorrect geography-based call recording restrictions.
    - inetknght 6y ago
      > You can edit the wifi network and change from DHCP to static IP. Then you can set the DNS for that network right there. Gross. I want to accept an IP address without accepting anything else. Just the IP address. Nothing else. Let me choose to turn off the default gateway on this network or even do something dumb like assign a different default gateway. Let me choose what DNS server to use. Let me opt-in to any other routes the network thinks I need. Let me opt-in to a time server. Give control of my device back!
  - oehpr 6y ago
    Was this an old policy? I'm on an LG G8X that is not rooted but I can set DNS. Does LG just grant the permission to do that?
- scrps 6y ago
  Even this isn't enough anymore. About one or two years ago I was fooling around with DNS queries out of boredom and I did a simple nslookup on a domain I knew would be NX (it was a .ss address), lo and behold it returned an IP and the responding DNS server was not what I use, tried another domain I knew would be non-existent... Same IP, browsed to it and I got a Spectrum "search" (it literally showed results for related sites I had been browsing) page. The real problem with this is that I never use the ISP supplied DNS servers. I double checked everything to ensure something in the network chain didn't default to the ISP DNS, turned out either Spectrum was either hijacking every DNS query but passing valid replies or running DPI and hijacking certain queries. I reported all this to EFF but never heard back. I switched to DNSCrypt to mitigate.
  - gcblkjaidfj 6y ago
    You can set DNS on newer android because it is meaningless. Now that *no* app uses the OS dns anymore, but the HTTPS one, you can change it at will. Go fiddle with your useless settings :(

tmobile still steals DNS requests to their weird search page? that alone would get them very low grades in my book.

arcticbull 6y ago

Aways set your DNS, preferably to 1.1.1.1

gcblkjaidfj 6y ago
Google won't allow you on non rooted android phones. > cue in google apologists telling me how to root or install hacks to do that and that it is totally possible
- Toutouxc 6y ago
  How does it work? Does an Android on my WiFi just ignore the DHCP provided DNS, or..?
  - grahamburger 6y ago
    They're forcing DoH, DNS over HTTPS.
- isiahl 6y ago
  Just tested with my S9+ and could change my DNS settings
- alias_neo 6y ago
  On newer Android versions there's a setting called "Private DNS", I usually set it to Cloudflare IPv6 DNS. There is 100% some funky shit going on in Android though; I was working on a project the other night and my phone absolutely refused to connect to the service on my PC. My phone and tablet both on Android simply gave me "no route to host" or timeouts even with data disabled and WiFi only set; this is connecting directly to IPs no hosts/DNS. Of course I assumed the firewall was up until I confirmed every other computing device I can access was able to hit it. Why is my phone messing with my networking on my private network?
- the_pwner224 6y ago
  You can edit the wifi network and change from DHCP to static IP. Then you can set the DNS for that network right there. You run the risk where your phone is set to always use 192.168.1.147 but another device @ .147 is already connected via DHCP, but it's not really a thing that will happen because the chances are so low. And it's a bit hard on public WiFi where finding the gateway, subnet mask, etc. could be hard, or there might be some access control mechanism on the network side. But for a large amount of people, setting the DNS on their home WiFi with this method would cover 50-90%+ of network usage. No root required. > cue in google apologists telling me how to root or install hacks to do that and that it is totally possible I'm not a google apologist btw. Running lineageos with no gapps. With a root-based workaround to get around Google's stupid/illogical/incorrect geography-based call recording restrictions.
  - inetknght 6y ago
    > You can edit the wifi network and change from DHCP to static IP. Then you can set the DNS for that network right there. Gross. I want to accept an IP address without accepting anything else. Just the IP address. Nothing else. Let me choose to turn off the default gateway on this network or even do something dumb like assign a different default gateway. Let me choose what DNS server to use. Let me opt-in to any other routes the network thinks I need. Let me opt-in to a time server. Give control of my device back!
- oehpr 6y ago
  Was this an old policy? I'm on an LG G8X that is not rooted but I can set DNS. Does LG just grant the permission to do that?
scrps 6y ago
Even this isn't enough anymore. About one or two years ago I was fooling around with DNS queries out of boredom and I did a simple nslookup on a domain I knew would be NX (it was a .ss address), lo and behold it returned an IP and the responding DNS server was not what I use, tried another domain I knew would be non-existent... Same IP, browsed to it and I got a Spectrum "search" (it literally showed results for related sites I had been browsing) page. The real problem with this is that I never use the ISP supplied DNS servers. I double checked everything to ensure something in the network chain didn't default to the ISP DNS, turned out either Spectrum was either hijacking every DNS query but passing valid replies or running DPI and hijacking certain queries. I reported all this to EFF but never heard back. I switched to DNSCrypt to mitigate.
- gcblkjaidfj 6y ago
  You can set DNS on newer android because it is meaningless. Now that *no* app uses the OS dns anymore, but the HTTPS one, you can change it at will. Go fiddle with your useless settings :(