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Not really, there are very few climate related deaths. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-from-natural-disasters?time=earliest..2018 https://o

Not really, there are very few climate related deaths. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-from-natural-disasters?time=earliest..2018 https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-from-nat... I think more people die from diabetes and covid than climate.

JimiofEden 6y ago
There are CURRENTLY very few climate related deaths. The person you're responding to is wondering if more lives would be saved in the long run, maybe the next 1000 years.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  The relative value of future deaths is interesting, right? To be honest you have to discount them a little because if you kill a guy today before he has kids, you've killed his kids too.
- corty 6y ago
  If I refuse to mate with someone, I also killed a few thousand people over the next millenium. That doesn't mean I will loose any sleep over saying no to his proposition.
savanaly 6y ago
When it comes to short term deaths (like could be measured right now or in the coming years) I think the bigger mechanism would be pollution which causes deaths from people with respiratory illnesses and such in major cities. Not so much in the US (although LA is a problem I think?) but definitely in China and India.
elmomle 6y ago
It isn't only climate change. Ambient air pollution causes >4 million deaths per year, per the WHO: https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution#tab=tab_1 https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution#tab=tab_1
- ggreer 6y ago
  Almost all of that (3.8 million) is indoor air pollution caused by cooking: https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/themes/topics/topic-details/GHO/household-air-pollution https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/themes/topics/topic-detail...
  - elmomle 6y ago
    Actually, that 3.8 million is separate from the 4.2 million caused by outdoor air pollution: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/ambient-(outdoor)-air-quality-and-health https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/ambient-(ou...
  - kube-system 6y ago
    For what it's worth, those cooking indoors with solid fuel are might also be less likely to be cooking anything... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_security_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_security_during_the_COVID...

JimiofEden 6y ago

There are CURRENTLY very few climate related deaths. The person you're responding to is wondering if more lives would be saved in the long run, maybe the next 1000 years.

renewiltord 6y ago
The relative value of future deaths is interesting, right? To be honest you have to discount them a little because if you kill a guy today before he has kids, you've killed his kids too.
corty 6y ago
If I refuse to mate with someone, I also killed a few thousand people over the next millenium. That doesn't mean I will loose any sleep over saying no to his proposition.

savanaly 6y ago

When it comes to short term deaths (like could be measured right now or in the coming years) I think the bigger mechanism would be pollution which causes deaths from people with respiratory illnesses and such in major cities. Not so much in the US (although LA is a problem I think?) but definitely in China and India.

elmomle 6y ago

It isn't only climate change. Ambient air pollution causes >4 million deaths per year, per the WHO: https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution#tab=tab_1 https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution#tab=tab_1

ggreer 6y ago
Almost all of that (3.8 million) is indoor air pollution caused by cooking: https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/themes/topics/topic-details/GHO/household-air-pollution https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/themes/topics/topic-detail...
- elmomle 6y ago
  Actually, that 3.8 million is separate from the 4.2 million caused by outdoor air pollution: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/ambient-(outdoor)-air-quality-and-health https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/ambient-(ou...
- kube-system 6y ago
  For what it's worth, those cooking indoors with solid fuel are might also be less likely to be cooking anything... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_security_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_security_during_the_COVID...