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I mean on a serious note, yes I personally think it's possible to do. But heavy charging cables have enough copper you're basically leaving a few dollars for e

I mean on a serious note, yes I personally think it's possible to do. But heavy charging cables have enough copper you're basically leaving a few dollars for every person with a pair of bolt cutters and a shopping cart. Not to mention vandalism or ICEing due to someone wanting to protest electric cars. I'm not saying it's impossible; just you need to design in making them robust and vandalism, theft and denial-of-service resistant. On a more humorous note my first mental image had a cyberpunk vibe: someone walking around the city with an unregulated nuke generator (stolen recycled waste or maybe a stolen weapon) selling electricity by the watt from a repurposed hot dog cart. Or maybe WattWallahs if it turns into a semi informal business. I believe EVs will come into their own as battery technology improves to the point that charging is no longer a multi hour affair. Whether that's the Bill Gates battery, super capacitors, hot swap battery clubs or some combination thereof remains to be seen.

dontyouknow 6y ago
Please see this https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/OVERVIEW/wcs.html https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/OVERVIEW/wcs.htm...
jiofih 6y ago
Charging is already not a multi-hour affair. 30m-45m with current fast chargers. But you don’t need fast charging on public streets, you charge while parked.
- technofiend 6y ago
  You do if the only place to park is on public streets.
  - Symbiote 6y ago
    I think the discussion is about people who park on the street outside their house or apartment. This is very common in some cities. https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/oct/05/electric-car-ways-to-charge https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/oct/05/electric-car-w...
core-questions 6y ago
> But heavy charging cables have enough copper you're basically leaving a few dollars for every person with a pair of bolt cutters and a shopping cart. This is an absolutely critical point. We can dream up all the beautiful systems we want, but as long as they have some reliance on a high-trust society, they will fail in America. America is a state in decline; the high point of trust was decades ago, and now most Americans live in a situation where they can't leave anything unlocked lest it be stolen. A lot of pie-in-the-sky sharing service ideas fall flat when we realize that people abuse shared property as much as they can. People like to suggest a future where electric, self-driving cars will be summoned on demand and show up at our doors, obviating the need to own your own vehicle; but the insides of these vehicles will be filthy, and the utility of having emergency stuff carried along with you (from a change of clothes on upward) will be lost. We can imagine banning people from such a service, but we can also imagine someone enacting a law banning banning....
- reportingsjr 6y ago
  > America is a state in decline; the high point of trust was decades ago Can you provide a source for that? All of the sources I see show that we're just above 1960s levels of property crime and trending downward. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

dontyouknow 6y ago

Please see this https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/OVERVIEW/wcs.html https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/OVERVIEW/wcs.htm...

jiofih 6y ago

Charging is already not a multi-hour affair. 30m-45m with current fast chargers. But you don’t need fast charging on public streets, you charge while parked.

technofiend 6y ago
You do if the only place to park is on public streets.
- Symbiote 6y ago
  I think the discussion is about people who park on the street outside their house or apartment. This is very common in some cities. https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/oct/05/electric-car-ways-to-charge https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/oct/05/electric-car-w...

core-questions 6y ago

> But heavy charging cables have enough copper you're basically leaving a few dollars for every person with a pair of bolt cutters and a shopping cart. This is an absolutely critical point. We can dream up all the beautiful systems we want, but as long as they have some reliance on a high-trust society, they will fail in America. America is a state in decline; the high point of trust was decades ago, and now most Americans live in a situation where they can't leave anything unlocked lest it be stolen. A lot of pie-in-the-sky sharing service ideas fall flat when we realize that people abuse shared property as much as they can. People like to suggest a future where electric, self-driving cars will be summoned on demand and show up at our doors, obviating the need to own your own vehicle; but the insides of these vehicles will be filthy, and the utility of having emergency stuff carried along with you (from a change of clothes on upward) will be lost. We can imagine banning people from such a service, but we can also imagine someone enacting a law banning banning....

reportingsjr 6y ago
> America is a state in decline; the high point of trust was decades ago Can you provide a source for that? All of the sources I see show that we're just above 1960s levels of property crime and trending downward. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm