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Might be based on something like this: https://thedriven.io/2020/03/24/siemens-converts-all-lamp-posts-on-residential-street-to-electric-car-chargers/ https://t

by r00fus 6y ago

Might be based on something like this: https://thedriven.io/2020/03/24/siemens-converts-all-lamp-posts-on-residential-street-to-electric-car-chargers/ https://thedriven.io/2020/03/24/siemens-converts-all-lamp-po...

rasz 6y ago
unguarded $100 worth of charging cable dangling from every street post? what could possibly go wrong?
- throw0101a 6y ago
  Reasonable concern, though: 1. If every car has one, they become a commodity, so how much value will they actually end up having? 2. There are locking cables available: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKaEhBjt1ls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKaEhBjt1ls
  - bluGill 6y ago
    Most of the price is in the copper inside. Walk around with an insulated bolt cutter, and you can make a lot of money. Alibaba will sell you a device to get the insulation off the wire. Plenty of scrappers bring copper into the scrap yards already. I wouldn't do it, but it is easy to see how a dishonest person could make it work.
- jeofken 6y ago
  The cable locks to both your car and the charging pole, at least where I live
- theshrike79 6y ago
  The cable is closer to 300-400€. (7 meter 32A Type 2) It locks to the pole when it's charging, and the car can be set up to lock its end until the car is unlocked. Non-issue.
  - rasz 6y ago
    The cable can be cut with $30 Bolt Cutters, and sold to the scrappers for its weight in copper. Multiply by the number of cars charging that night on one street. Faster, cleaner and tons more profitable than cutting catalyst converters from under the cars.
    - theshrike79 6y ago
      It also has up to 32 amps of current running through it. Better get those industrial cutters with proper insulation =) BTW, are all scrappers completely unethical? People steal the weirdest shit for the value of the metal and they always seem to find some scrapyard that'll take it and pay for it.
      - rasz 6y ago
        The cable itself, charger, dongle or whatever they are calling it has safety circuity and will cut charging at the slightest hint of overcurrent.
jeofken 6y ago
In Copenhagen there are charging poles in a lot of places, also in the inner city. They’re reserved for EVs. For this reason, it’s very easy to find parking with a EV and leave with a full tank. You bring your own cable which costs $120 (+25% VAT), which is locked to the car and the charging pole, so it can’t be stolen without being ruined.
- Daho0n 6y ago
  As a Dane I can attest that charging infrastructure is most definitely not anywhere near good enough for most people that doesn't have their own parking spot. I just bought a mild-hybrid for the exact reason that charging is impossible if I don't want to drive in circles looking for a spot or risk having to either walk home or sit at a charging station starring at the sky on my way home.

by r00fus 6y ago

rasz 6y ago

unguarded $100 worth of charging cable dangling from every street post? what could possibly go wrong?

throw0101a 6y ago
Reasonable concern, though: 1. If every car has one, they become a commodity, so how much value will they actually end up having? 2. There are locking cables available: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKaEhBjt1ls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKaEhBjt1ls
- bluGill 6y ago
  Most of the price is in the copper inside. Walk around with an insulated bolt cutter, and you can make a lot of money. Alibaba will sell you a device to get the insulation off the wire. Plenty of scrappers bring copper into the scrap yards already. I wouldn't do it, but it is easy to see how a dishonest person could make it work.
jeofken 6y ago
The cable locks to both your car and the charging pole, at least where I live
theshrike79 6y ago
The cable is closer to 300-400€. (7 meter 32A Type 2) It locks to the pole when it's charging, and the car can be set up to lock its end until the car is unlocked. Non-issue.
- rasz 6y ago
  The cable can be cut with $30 Bolt Cutters, and sold to the scrappers for its weight in copper. Multiply by the number of cars charging that night on one street. Faster, cleaner and tons more profitable than cutting catalyst converters from under the cars.
  - theshrike79 6y ago
    It also has up to 32 amps of current running through it. Better get those industrial cutters with proper insulation =) BTW, are all scrappers completely unethical? People steal the weirdest shit for the value of the metal and they always seem to find some scrapyard that'll take it and pay for it.
    - rasz 6y ago
      The cable itself, charger, dongle or whatever they are calling it has safety circuity and will cut charging at the slightest hint of overcurrent.

jeofken 6y ago

In Copenhagen there are charging poles in a lot of places, also in the inner city. They’re reserved for EVs. For this reason, it’s very easy to find parking with a EV and leave with a full tank. You bring your own cable which costs $120 (+25% VAT), which is locked to the car and the charging pole, so it can’t be stolen without being ruined.

Daho0n 6y ago
As a Dane I can attest that charging infrastructure is most definitely not anywhere near good enough for most people that doesn't have their own parking spot. I just bought a mild-hybrid for the exact reason that charging is impossible if I don't want to drive in circles looking for a spot or risk having to either walk home or sit at a charging station starring at the sky on my way home.