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Car power plant is important, but also everything else is. I just bought ICE german luxury car just because there is nothing even close to it in the EV departme

Car power plant is important, but also everything else is. I just bought ICE german luxury car just because there is nothing even close to it in the EV department. Teslas interior are falling apart and build quality is really poor. I also do not want to share telemetry. I do road trips sometimes and have no spare time to charge. Opinion: It seems like until there is something better than lithium batteries are coming up, EV market is just no good.

bognition 6y ago
Where are you getting the data on Tesla interiors? I’ve had my model 3 for 2 years and there hasn’t been a single problem.
- Laarlf 6y ago
  The Tesla Model 3 LR 2018 that i have driven rattled more in the interior than my 22 year old Volvo with recycled plastic in the interior that is known for rattling. I actually considered saving up for a model 3 because they look like interesting cars. But that drive turned me off so much.
  - radium3d 6y ago
    That's unfortunate that you didn't give it a chance. Next time try them out. My 2019 3 SR+ had a rattling issue with the phone holder mount. I brought it into tesla service center within the first week and they fixed it and I haven't had a rattle since. It's a great interior imo
    - Laarlf 6y ago
      What do you mean "try them out"? I said I drove one and i did not like it. It is not just the rattling interior that i dislike. The pedals, the wheel size, the rear passenger space, the trunk space, no speedo and no HUD in front of me, the electrical shifter... it is just not a car for me, even if i would accept the worse rattling for a car that is literally 50 times the price of my car.
      - radium3d 6y ago
        Ah I see, cool beans I do wish the 3 was a hatchback to fit larger stuff through the back. The Y might do better. There is no transmission to shift though :) haha
        Laarlf 6y ago
        I dislike high driving positions of crossovers and suvs sooo... that is not a car for me either.
    - Teknoman117 6y ago
      I tried one out. I'm 6'4 (193 cm for our friends outside the US), and even with the seat all the way back my right knee hits the screen. Would it have killed them to make it adjustable? It's a $50,000 car, come on.
      - cptskippy 6y ago
        Did you lower the seat? I'm 6'5" and I don't have the seat all the way back in mine.
        Teknoman117 6y ago
        I'm honestly not sure, I took a test drive at a Tesla showroom and the guy was tweaking the seat for me before I got in. Tried to convince me to consider the Model S instead. Just, ya know, casually buy a car that costs twice as much. I think I'll get a house before I buy a $90k car...
        cptskippy 6y ago
        Sounds like he was trying to upsell you. I just checked and with the seat all the way back my knee is 4-5 inches from the screen in any position. At the position I keep it, my knee is actually under the screen but no matter how I move my leg it never comes within more than 2 inches of the screen.
      - radium3d 6y ago
        Tech forum on YouTube designed an adjustable mount that lets you rotate the display https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpcv11eHWE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpcv11eHWE
  - cptskippy 6y ago
    My 2018 Model 3 is quiet to the point that I will often hear creaks and rattles coming from outside the car. Now when I hear something I will instinctively speed up or slow down to see if the sound moves. My mom's old Volvo required you to jam your knees under the dash to keep it from rattling.
- dcchambers 6y ago
  Even if there's no QA issues, the interior of the Model 3 is just so cold and bare IMO. Sitting in one next to a luxury or near-luxury car is night and day difference in both style and comfort. The Model S is better, but it's still blown away by other cars at the same price point. I understand that style is subjective, but the majority of people I have talked with about it agree that the interior is a disappointment given the status of the brand.
- igorstellar 6y ago
  I work in tech and live in Bay Area. A lot of my friends and colleagues have teslas. I have been in X, 3 and S and I have not seen one that didn't have any obvious issues. I am not nitpicky either: for example I used to have Mazda and consider it being benchmark of quality interiors for $25K. After all, interior is where I spend lots of time in a commute.
btbuildem 6y ago
Coming from an airport one day, I thought to myself, "OK, this is gonna be a treat" and hopped into one of the Tesla SUV taxis. Wow, kind of a letdown tbh. I expected high-end interior, but they're actually really bare-bones. This was a few years ago, not sure if they've changed anything though.
- igorstellar 6y ago
  I'm OK with being minimalist (as in Volvo/nordic minimalism) but when your $80K car has window rubber sticking out and squeaky dashboard, that's where I draw the line.

bognition 6y ago

Where are you getting the data on Tesla interiors? I’ve had my model 3 for 2 years and there hasn’t been a single problem.

Laarlf 6y ago
The Tesla Model 3 LR 2018 that i have driven rattled more in the interior than my 22 year old Volvo with recycled plastic in the interior that is known for rattling. I actually considered saving up for a model 3 because they look like interesting cars. But that drive turned me off so much.
- radium3d 6y ago
  That's unfortunate that you didn't give it a chance. Next time try them out. My 2019 3 SR+ had a rattling issue with the phone holder mount. I brought it into tesla service center within the first week and they fixed it and I haven't had a rattle since. It's a great interior imo
  - Laarlf 6y ago
    What do you mean "try them out"? I said I drove one and i did not like it. It is not just the rattling interior that i dislike. The pedals, the wheel size, the rear passenger space, the trunk space, no speedo and no HUD in front of me, the electrical shifter... it is just not a car for me, even if i would accept the worse rattling for a car that is literally 50 times the price of my car.
    - radium3d 6y ago
      Ah I see, cool beans I do wish the 3 was a hatchback to fit larger stuff through the back. The Y might do better. There is no transmission to shift though :) haha
      - Laarlf 6y ago
        I dislike high driving positions of crossovers and suvs sooo... that is not a car for me either.
  - Teknoman117 6y ago
    I tried one out. I'm 6'4 (193 cm for our friends outside the US), and even with the seat all the way back my right knee hits the screen. Would it have killed them to make it adjustable? It's a $50,000 car, come on.
    - cptskippy 6y ago
      Did you lower the seat? I'm 6'5" and I don't have the seat all the way back in mine.
      - Teknoman117 6y ago
        I'm honestly not sure, I took a test drive at a Tesla showroom and the guy was tweaking the seat for me before I got in. Tried to convince me to consider the Model S instead. Just, ya know, casually buy a car that costs twice as much. I think I'll get a house before I buy a $90k car...
        cptskippy 6y ago
        Sounds like he was trying to upsell you. I just checked and with the seat all the way back my knee is 4-5 inches from the screen in any position. At the position I keep it, my knee is actually under the screen but no matter how I move my leg it never comes within more than 2 inches of the screen.
    - radium3d 6y ago
      Tech forum on YouTube designed an adjustable mount that lets you rotate the display https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpcv11eHWE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpcv11eHWE
- cptskippy 6y ago
  My 2018 Model 3 is quiet to the point that I will often hear creaks and rattles coming from outside the car. Now when I hear something I will instinctively speed up or slow down to see if the sound moves. My mom's old Volvo required you to jam your knees under the dash to keep it from rattling.
dcchambers 6y ago
Even if there's no QA issues, the interior of the Model 3 is just so cold and bare IMO. Sitting in one next to a luxury or near-luxury car is night and day difference in both style and comfort. The Model S is better, but it's still blown away by other cars at the same price point. I understand that style is subjective, but the majority of people I have talked with about it agree that the interior is a disappointment given the status of the brand.
igorstellar 6y ago
I work in tech and live in Bay Area. A lot of my friends and colleagues have teslas. I have been in X, 3 and S and I have not seen one that didn't have any obvious issues. I am not nitpicky either: for example I used to have Mazda and consider it being benchmark of quality interiors for $25K. After all, interior is where I spend lots of time in a commute.

btbuildem 6y ago

Coming from an airport one day, I thought to myself, "OK, this is gonna be a treat" and hopped into one of the Tesla SUV taxis. Wow, kind of a letdown tbh. I expected high-end interior, but they're actually really bare-bones. This was a few years ago, not sure if they've changed anything though.

igorstellar 6y ago
I'm OK with being minimalist (as in Volvo/nordic minimalism) but when your $80K car has window rubber sticking out and squeaky dashboard, that's where I draw the line.