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... which is another way of saying that there will not be normal Audi electrics until 2030. Another ten years of iMobiles and e-Tron Space cars and e-initiativ
by rsync 6y ago
... which is another way of saying that there will not be normal Audi electrics until 2030.
Another ten years of iMobiles and e-Tron Space cars and e-initiatives.
Volvo made a similar announcement a few years ago and I see I cannot buy an electric V90. Or any actual volvo other than the little XC40 and their iMobile/eCar Polestar.
We don't want your electric car. We want your car, electric.
- chrisseaton 6y agoWhat's the difference between a Polestar and an 'actual Volvo'? Just the badge on front? What's that matter? I think Polestar used to be literally a trim level, so they can't be that different.
- hasmolo 6y agopolestar is it's own performance group associated with volvo. they are extending out the base stuff by a lot, but fundamentally are rebuilding everything. checkout the polestar one to see what's up. imagine polestar is the same as dinnan for bmw, a close partner, but rebuilds the entire drivetrain
- chrisseaton 6y agoI don't think they're 'associated' with or a 'close partner' of Volvo... I think they're just Volvo, entirely owned. It's just a marketing thing. It's still Volvo.
- hasmolo 6y agointerestingly, polestar is half owned by volvo and half owned by geely, volvos parent company. polestar was an independent company until 2015. [0] 0: http://zgh.com/our-brands/polestar/?lang=en http://zgh.com/our-brands/polestar/?lang=en
- Laarlf 6y agoPolestar builds tunes for regular Volvos and 2 cars. The polestar 1 is a plug in hybrid coupe that costs about 200k and the polestar 2 is a model 3 competitor that is rather new.
- Hamuko 6y agoPolestar makes two cars: a very limited production number hybrid and a weird-looking/ugly electric 5-door that starts at £46k. Volvo makes two estates (starting at £35k), tree SUVs (starting at £25k) and two saloons (starting at £40k).
- chrisseaton 6y agoIt's the same company. Polestar is entirely owned by Volvo. Many of the components are the same. It's just a different brand and badge that's applied to some models. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polestar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polestar > Polestar is a Swedish automotive brand owned by Volvo Cars
- Hamuko 6y agoYou know who owns Porsche and Bentley, right? There's zero overlap when it comes to Polestar models and Volvo models. The Polestar 2 just shares the platform with Volvo's SUV.
- chrisseaton 6y agoAre you possibly confusing Volkswagen Group and Volkswagen? For example Volkswagen don't own Bentley, if that's what you're thinking. Volkswagen and Bentley are both owned by Volkswagen Group. Volvo does simply own Polestar.
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- r_klancer 6y agoIn Volvo's case I think it's a matter of platform refresh times. The (brand-new) XC40 Recharge BEV is based on the new "CMA" platform that is designed to be flexible enough to support ICE or PHEV or full BEV configurations. The S90/V90 are built on a platform that wasn't designed to support BEVs, but given Volvo's commitments I expect the next V90 will be available as a BEV. But the current V90 was released in 2016 so the redesign probably won't arrive til 2024 or so. My neighbor has a gorgeous [*] new V60 sitting out on his driveway. But that model was just refreshed a couple years ago, so given usual model lifetimes, I figure it'll be five or six years before the next V60 redesign, and that there won't be a true BEV V60 until then. On the other hand, I hope they don't retire the "Eurowagon" form factor at the same time! I don't like crossovers and SUVs, so I'm hopeful that Volvo and VW Group (Audi, VW, or both) will have compelling electric wagons for sale by mid-decade when I expect to retire my ICEmobile. [*] Yes, I just described a Volvo wagon as gorgeous, but there it is. What is this world coming to.