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What astounds me are the liberals who rightfully call for Navalny's freedom but defend prosecuting Assange and Snowden. Hypocrisy seems to be a consistent featu

What astounds me are the liberals who rightfully call for Navalny's freedom but defend prosecuting Assange and Snowden. Hypocrisy seems to be a consistent feature of politics.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
It's not like we actively plotted to assassinate Assange though, we hired a Spanish firm to do that for us. We totally have the moral high ground.
- sschueller 6y ago
  Hillary proposed a drone strike on Assange. https://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wikileaks-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-proposed-drone-strike-on-julian-assange/ https://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wik...
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    Pretty clearly a joke, though someone in her position making that joke is rather disgusting.
jesterson 6y ago
Came here to write this. Hypocrisy is not a feature politics alone, it does seem to be liberals mandate as sad as it sounds. And if we look deeper, comparing useless CIA-funded clown with people who shed light to atrocities performed by government and military complex and paid with their own life (treatment that Assange got all those years are not even remotely humane) for it, is an incredible stretch, to put it mildly.
- ecf 6y ago
  Are you seriously arguing that only a single party engages in hypocritical activities, after an entire 4 years of Trump and Republicans enabling him?
  - jesterson 6y ago
    I believe you're missing the point. It's not about blaming Republican or Democratic party, which are largely made from same dough, but freedom.
plandis 6y ago
Assange is charged with helping Manning with decrypting stolen files and offering advice on how to best cover her tracks among other things according to the DOJ indictment. Why are you so convinced of his innocence? Do you have information that definitively refutes all of those charges? Edit: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1289641/download https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1289641/downl...
- SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
  I'm not convinced Assange is innocent of that, I don't think it should be a crime. A lot of Navalny's anti-corruption work involved hacking and "stealing" the emails of corrupt politicians. Do you have a problem with that, too? Manning's "theft" of secret files exposed crimes of the US government to the people.
  - plandis 6y ago
    I see it the same as robbing billionaire and giving half the proceeds to poor people. Just because you’ve done some good doesn’t absolve you of wrongdoing. If we look at the Wikileaks case, Assange decided to release tens of thousands of documents without redacting the names of people, explicitly putting those individuals in harms way.
ecf 6y ago
What astounds me are the people on Hacker News who cry about free speech over Parler yet are silent when Russia jails someone for being in an opposition party, a TRUE violation of free speech.
- SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
  "I believe that President Trump's Twitter ban is an unacceptable act of censorship." - Alexey Navalny //twitter.com/navalny/status/1347959515946360833?s=19 I have never been silent about Navalny. He is clearly a political prisoner. However it is important to be consistent, and not only be a critic when it's your adversaries commiting a fault.

What astounds me are the liberals who rightfully call for Navalny's freedom but defend prosecuting Assange and Snowden. Hypocrisy seems to be a consistent feature of politics.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

It's not like we actively plotted to assassinate Assange though, we hired a Spanish firm to do that for us. We totally have the moral high ground.

sschueller 6y ago
Hillary proposed a drone strike on Assange. https://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wikileaks-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-proposed-drone-strike-on-julian-assange/ https://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wik...
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  Pretty clearly a joke, though someone in her position making that joke is rather disgusting.

jesterson 6y ago

Came here to write this. Hypocrisy is not a feature politics alone, it does seem to be liberals mandate as sad as it sounds. And if we look deeper, comparing useless CIA-funded clown with people who shed light to atrocities performed by government and military complex and paid with their own life (treatment that Assange got all those years are not even remotely humane) for it, is an incredible stretch, to put it mildly.

ecf 6y ago
Are you seriously arguing that only a single party engages in hypocritical activities, after an entire 4 years of Trump and Republicans enabling him?
- jesterson 6y ago
  I believe you're missing the point. It's not about blaming Republican or Democratic party, which are largely made from same dough, but freedom.

plandis 6y ago

Assange is charged with helping Manning with decrypting stolen files and offering advice on how to best cover her tracks among other things according to the DOJ indictment. Why are you so convinced of his innocence? Do you have information that definitively refutes all of those charges? Edit: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1289641/download https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1289641/downl...

SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
I'm not convinced Assange is innocent of that, I don't think it should be a crime. A lot of Navalny's anti-corruption work involved hacking and "stealing" the emails of corrupt politicians. Do you have a problem with that, too? Manning's "theft" of secret files exposed crimes of the US government to the people.
- plandis 6y ago
  I see it the same as robbing billionaire and giving half the proceeds to poor people. Just because you’ve done some good doesn’t absolve you of wrongdoing. If we look at the Wikileaks case, Assange decided to release tens of thousands of documents without redacting the names of people, explicitly putting those individuals in harms way.

ecf 6y ago

What astounds me are the people on Hacker News who cry about free speech over Parler yet are silent when Russia jails someone for being in an opposition party, a TRUE violation of free speech.

SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
"I believe that President Trump's Twitter ban is an unacceptable act of censorship." - Alexey Navalny //twitter.com/navalny/status/1347959515946360833?s=19 I have never been silent about Navalny. He is clearly a political prisoner. However it is important to be consistent, and not only be a critic when it's your adversaries commiting a fault.