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If I’m understanding this correctly, this has nothing to do with deplatforming or freedom of speech. Although motivated by self interest, someone found DDoS-gua

If I’m understanding this correctly, this has nothing to do with deplatforming or freedom of speech. Although motivated by self interest, someone found DDoS-guard’s dirty laundry and aired it to LACNIC.

null0pointer 6y ago
While the underlying issue is legitimate (whether or not DDoS-Guard has enough physical presence in Belize), this is undeniably targeted selective enforcement with the intent to deplatform.
- syntaxing 6y ago
  Can you explain more about how it is undeniable? I understand if we said it’s targeted reporting but I fail to see any evidence of targeted enforcement (as in if any high profile non-DDoS guard company would get the same treatment if someone reported the same issue).
  - null0pointer 6y ago
    Ok you're right. We would need more data points to determine whether the enforcement was selective or not.
aaron695 6y ago
Not sure I get what you are saying, per article - > The pending disruption for DDoS-Guard and Parler comes compliments of Ron Guilmette, a researcher who has made it something of a personal mission to de-platform conspiracy theorist and far-right groups. By finding things someone or a company has done to deplatforming them, it's not deplatforming when they get deplatforming if? Maybe try reading "The Dictator's Handbook", it might cover what your asking.
- syntaxing 6y ago
  It is still target reporting. Not targeting enforcement. Deplatforming would be LACNIC terminating the addresses strictly because they host some sort of content. Terminating addresses because they lied on their contract is another story. Ron Guilmette targeting DDoS-Guard is true but that is still not deplatforming.
  - aaron695 6y ago
    You seem to be reading lines of code rather than understand what the application does. Someone used the mechanisms within LACNIC to deplatform. > Deplatforming would be LACNIC terminating the addresses No one is saying LACNIC deplatformed anyone, it was Ron Guilmette. I guess it's up to you how you want to interpret reality. Like I suggest read the book. It gets good reviews in it's own right even if you don't think the processes in the book would apply here.
  - beerandt 6y ago
    This is like saying profiling is ok, as long as a citizen reports "suspicious" behavior to the police. Because then the police wouldn't be the ones doing the profiling.

null0pointer 6y ago

While the underlying issue is legitimate (whether or not DDoS-Guard has enough physical presence in Belize), this is undeniably targeted selective enforcement with the intent to deplatform.

syntaxing 6y ago
Can you explain more about how it is undeniable? I understand if we said it’s targeted reporting but I fail to see any evidence of targeted enforcement (as in if any high profile non-DDoS guard company would get the same treatment if someone reported the same issue).
- null0pointer 6y ago
  Ok you're right. We would need more data points to determine whether the enforcement was selective or not.

aaron695 6y ago

Not sure I get what you are saying, per article - > The pending disruption for DDoS-Guard and Parler comes compliments of Ron Guilmette, a researcher who has made it something of a personal mission to de-platform conspiracy theorist and far-right groups. By finding things someone or a company has done to deplatforming them, it's not deplatforming when they get deplatforming if? Maybe try reading "The Dictator's Handbook", it might cover what your asking.

syntaxing 6y ago
It is still target reporting. Not targeting enforcement. Deplatforming would be LACNIC terminating the addresses strictly because they host some sort of content. Terminating addresses because they lied on their contract is another story. Ron Guilmette targeting DDoS-Guard is true but that is still not deplatforming.
- aaron695 6y ago
  You seem to be reading lines of code rather than understand what the application does. Someone used the mechanisms within LACNIC to deplatform. > Deplatforming would be LACNIC terminating the addresses No one is saying LACNIC deplatformed anyone, it was Ron Guilmette. I guess it's up to you how you want to interpret reality. Like I suggest read the book. It gets good reviews in it's own right even if you don't think the processes in the book would apply here.
- beerandt 6y ago
  This is like saying profiling is ok, as long as a citizen reports "suspicious" behavior to the police. Because then the police wouldn't be the ones doing the profiling.