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No difference to EU dictating GDPR laws.

oneplane 6y ago
That is how law tends to work; it dictates what is lawful within the area it controls.
Silhouette 6y ago
The EU's attempts to force extra-territorial enforcement of the GDPR are hardly uncontroversial. It remains to be seen what will happen if and when it comes up against another big fish that is willing to take that fight. As probably the most obvious example, looking at the relative development of the tech sector in the US compared to the EU, particularly now the UK has left, I don't think it takes a genius to work out who loses if the EU really tries to cut off US tech for not playing nicely with EU rules (GDPR or otherwise) and the US government retaliates.
- dheera 6y ago
  It's laughable how preferentially they try to enforce GDPR on the US vs. other countries. For example, Tencent has a lot of WeChat users in the EU but the EU haven't done a thing about their gross privacy violations that don't align with GDPR. Or Xiaomi Roborock vacuum cleaners, which are sold in Germany, France, Italy, and Spain, but send Wi-Fi SSIDs, passwords, GPS, and floor maps back to their server with no option to disable that behavior and no option to request deletion of user data. They mostly target Silicon Valley companies and don't seem to particularly care if other countries' companies violate GDPR.
  - andromeduck 6y ago
    It's just thinly veiled protectionism - not uncommon for "consumer protection" schemes sadly.
    - Hallucinaut 6y ago
      Is it really protectionism when it disproportionately affected EU businesses detrimentally? It's more like they'll apply where the rule of law applies and yet they're too scared to take on China in this case.
      - AmericanChopper 6y ago
        > it disproportionately affected EU businesses detrimentally Well that’s a very interesting take. Enforcement is overwhelmingly targeted at foreign companies, and primarily from the US and EU. I guess you can be the judge of whether it’s a just coincidence that those are the countries that the EU has the most contentious trade relationships with. Aside from China of course, which I’d say you have correctly observed would simply not tolerate the EU trying to enforce its laws extraterritorially.
        suifbwish 6y ago
        The EU trying to enforce its laws on citizens of other countries who have never entered theirs is like that loud neighbor in the trailer park who talks about himself in the third person and keeps showing up drunk in his underwear to flirt with your wife and to rant that that your guest wifi isn’t fast enough.

That is how law tends to work; it dictates what is lawful within the area it controls.

The EU's attempts to force extra-territorial enforcement of the GDPR are hardly uncontroversial. It remains to be seen what will happen if and when it comes up against another big fish that is willing to take that fight. As probably the most obvious example, looking at the relative development of the tech sector in the US compared to the EU, particularly now the UK has left, I don't think it takes a genius to work out who loses if the EU really tries to cut off US tech for not playing nicely with EU rules (GDPR or otherwise) and the US government retaliates.

dheera 6y ago
It's laughable how preferentially they try to enforce GDPR on the US vs. other countries. For example, Tencent has a lot of WeChat users in the EU but the EU haven't done a thing about their gross privacy violations that don't align with GDPR. Or Xiaomi Roborock vacuum cleaners, which are sold in Germany, France, Italy, and Spain, but send Wi-Fi SSIDs, passwords, GPS, and floor maps back to their server with no option to disable that behavior and no option to request deletion of user data. They mostly target Silicon Valley companies and don't seem to particularly care if other countries' companies violate GDPR.
- andromeduck 6y ago
  It's just thinly veiled protectionism - not uncommon for "consumer protection" schemes sadly.
  - Hallucinaut 6y ago
    Is it really protectionism when it disproportionately affected EU businesses detrimentally? It's more like they'll apply where the rule of law applies and yet they're too scared to take on China in this case.
    - AmericanChopper 6y ago
      > it disproportionately affected EU businesses detrimentally Well that’s a very interesting take. Enforcement is overwhelmingly targeted at foreign companies, and primarily from the US and EU. I guess you can be the judge of whether it’s a just coincidence that those are the countries that the EU has the most contentious trade relationships with. Aside from China of course, which I’d say you have correctly observed would simply not tolerate the EU trying to enforce its laws extraterritorially.
      - suifbwish 6y ago
        The EU trying to enforce its laws on citizens of other countries who have never entered theirs is like that loud neighbor in the trailer park who talks about himself in the third person and keeps showing up drunk in his underwear to flirt with your wife and to rant that that your guest wifi isn’t fast enough.