Disclaimer I own no TSLA, nor have I even purchased any shares, options or other derivatives as of this date aside from potentially 401k mutual funds (kinda wis

Disclaimer I own no TSLA, nor have I even purchased any shares, options or other derivatives as of this date aside from potentially 401k mutual funds (kinda wish this wasn't the case). That said, I simply don't think things have changed in the past 10 years such that an "automotive giant" is ready to out-tech Tesla. I do think Apple may be able to do it but I wonder what their motive would be in doing so, as margins are much lower in auto than computing. I did not intend my response as a personal attack; your reasoning (and verbiage) just seemed derivative, that's all.