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We made so much progress in that field over the last 40 years... I sometimes get lost trying to imagine what will be the computing performance available in 100,

We made so much progress in that field over the last 40 years... I sometimes get lost trying to imagine what will be the computing performance available in 100, 1000, 10000 years from now...

gnarbarian 6y ago
Sticks and rocks most likely.
- adolph 6y ago
  Yep, quantum entanglement materials thru and thru
eppp 6y ago
Single threaded performance isn't keeping pace unfortunately.
- SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
  That just means multithreaded will become more and more important. Languages like rust may gain some usage as we start to require safe multithreading.
  - eppp 6y ago
    That may be so, but that doesnt make it any less depressing. Some things cant be run parallel. I cant mail a letter until it is written.
JohnJamesRambo 6y ago
And I'm afraid it will still obey this trend. https://danluu.com/input-lag/ https://danluu.com/input-lag/
- kornbattery 6y ago
  That doesen't seem like some fundamental restriction, but rather a compromise we're always willing to make. 30ms is not noticeable, so we don't try to lower it and sacrifice something else. Even the super slow ones like on kindle, are _choices_ that have been made in favor of something else. a second to turn a page on a book isn't unbearable
  - yakubin 6y ago
    30ms latency is acceptable. But that's the best we ever had. High-end Android phones have 120+ ms latecy. That's easily noticeable and actually annoying (at least to me). My personal pet peeve is the latency of input when i'm starting new applications in KDE. E.g. I'll start a new terminal with Super+Enter, followed by a Super+Right Arrow in order to tile it to the right. But the latency is big enough, that often it's not the terminal that ends up tiled, but the application that had focus earlier, e.g. a web browser. It's really annoying. I also don't understand how still in 2020 when I move a window with the mouse, the window can't keep up with the mouse. 30ms input lag is what we should work towards. But that's not what we have today. Today is actually crap.
    - JohnJamesRambo 6y ago
      It’s so frustrating that our phones and computers can’t move at the speed our mind moves. I know it could if someone cared to try to make it a priority.
    - bloopernova 6y ago
      I think that if you had a top-to-bottom approach to a Linux distro designed entirely for latency of user interaction, you'd get something that would keep up with you. I keep meaning to try out WindowMaker again as my Fedora window manager. I feel like it would be incredibly speedy on today's hardware.

We made so much progress in that field over the last 40 years... I sometimes get lost trying to imagine what will be the computing performance available in 100, 1000, 10000 years from now...

gnarbarian 6y ago

Sticks and rocks most likely.

adolph 6y ago
Yep, quantum entanglement materials thru and thru

eppp 6y ago

Single threaded performance isn't keeping pace unfortunately.

SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
That just means multithreaded will become more and more important. Languages like rust may gain some usage as we start to require safe multithreading.
- eppp 6y ago
  That may be so, but that doesnt make it any less depressing. Some things cant be run parallel. I cant mail a letter until it is written.

JohnJamesRambo 6y ago

And I'm afraid it will still obey this trend. https://danluu.com/input-lag/ https://danluu.com/input-lag/

kornbattery 6y ago
That doesen't seem like some fundamental restriction, but rather a compromise we're always willing to make. 30ms is not noticeable, so we don't try to lower it and sacrifice something else. Even the super slow ones like on kindle, are _choices_ that have been made in favor of something else. a second to turn a page on a book isn't unbearable
- yakubin 6y ago
  30ms latency is acceptable. But that's the best we ever had. High-end Android phones have 120+ ms latecy. That's easily noticeable and actually annoying (at least to me). My personal pet peeve is the latency of input when i'm starting new applications in KDE. E.g. I'll start a new terminal with Super+Enter, followed by a Super+Right Arrow in order to tile it to the right. But the latency is big enough, that often it's not the terminal that ends up tiled, but the application that had focus earlier, e.g. a web browser. It's really annoying. I also don't understand how still in 2020 when I move a window with the mouse, the window can't keep up with the mouse. 30ms input lag is what we should work towards. But that's not what we have today. Today is actually crap.
  - JohnJamesRambo 6y ago
    It’s so frustrating that our phones and computers can’t move at the speed our mind moves. I know it could if someone cared to try to make it a priority.
  - bloopernova 6y ago
    I think that if you had a top-to-bottom approach to a Linux distro designed entirely for latency of user interaction, you'd get something that would keep up with you. I keep meaning to try out WindowMaker again as my Fedora window manager. I feel like it would be incredibly speedy on today's hardware.