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How does this not run into major copyright issues?

by vlmutolo 6y ago

X6S1x6Okd1st 6y ago
It's a federated model so it would be up to each instance to police it's self.
cecja 6y ago
Because you are hosting your own legally owned music library on your server.
- tastyfreeze 6y ago
  I don't expect that will be good enough for the RIAA. There are enough similarities to being a radio station or paid streaming service that RIAA would still want to strip the flesh from the bones.
  - rglullis 6y ago
    Then it's up to the RIAA to (1) come and find every single instance out there, (2) get access to the instance, (3) find copyrighted content and (4) demonstrate that is beyond fair-use.
    - tastyfreeze 6y ago
      Yes, it is. That hasn't stopped them from copyright abusing shenanigans before.
      - unicornporn 6y ago
        I know it's mind-boggling, but there are also a few other countries outside US and A. :) In Sweden as an example, it's OK to share with a small group of friends[1]. [1] https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatkopiering https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...
        tastyfreeze 6y ago
        Thanks unicornporn for pointing out the world is a big place. Ive got no love for RIAA or MPAA. I am a little surprised that my stance wasnt more dominant on HN. Did everybody forget the litigation against p2p sharing software and raids of PirateBay and Megaupload? I do think that federated services will finaly set media free. But I also expect that copyright holders will try their best to kill a few servers that are big enough to catch their attention. Arr matey
erikschoster 6y ago
Most instances I've seen are used to host music uploaded by the original authors, or collections of CC-licensed music, etc. I actually have yet to see anyone using funkwhale to share music publicly they didn't create themselves or have permission to share. It does have a private mode for that, so you could upload your music collection and share it with just a few friends or something. (Edit: I tried funkwhale out as a way to privately share a small online radio station's music library with its DJs. It didn't suit our needs ultimately -- I felt the UI & search / filtering affordances were lacking for our use case -- but you could use it in a hybrid public/private way like that if you want. Libraries have some access control features.)

How does this not run into major copyright issues?

X6S1x6Okd1st 6y ago

It's a federated model so it would be up to each instance to police it's self.

cecja 6y ago

Because you are hosting your own legally owned music library on your server.

tastyfreeze 6y ago
I don't expect that will be good enough for the RIAA. There are enough similarities to being a radio station or paid streaming service that RIAA would still want to strip the flesh from the bones.
- rglullis 6y ago
  Then it's up to the RIAA to (1) come and find every single instance out there, (2) get access to the instance, (3) find copyrighted content and (4) demonstrate that is beyond fair-use.
  - tastyfreeze 6y ago
    Yes, it is. That hasn't stopped them from copyright abusing shenanigans before.
    - unicornporn 6y ago
      I know it's mind-boggling, but there are also a few other countries outside US and A. :) In Sweden as an example, it's OK to share with a small group of friends[1]. [1] https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatkopiering https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...
      - tastyfreeze 6y ago
        Thanks unicornporn for pointing out the world is a big place. Ive got no love for RIAA or MPAA. I am a little surprised that my stance wasnt more dominant on HN. Did everybody forget the litigation against p2p sharing software and raids of PirateBay and Megaupload? I do think that federated services will finaly set media free. But I also expect that copyright holders will try their best to kill a few servers that are big enough to catch their attention. Arr matey

erikschoster 6y ago

Most instances I've seen are used to host music uploaded by the original authors, or collections of CC-licensed music, etc. I actually have yet to see anyone using funkwhale to share music publicly they didn't create themselves or have permission to share. It does have a private mode for that, so you could upload your music collection and share it with just a few friends or something. (Edit: I tried funkwhale out as a way to privately share a small online radio station's music library with its DJs. It didn't suit our needs ultimately -- I felt the UI & search / filtering affordances were lacking for our use case -- but you could use it in a hybrid public/private way like that if you want. Libraries have some access control features.)