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1). "I haven't heard anything good" is not exactly a high bar either. 2). I don't care what people's agenda is if they do not advocate focribly making others

1). "I haven't heard anything good" is not exactly a high bar either. 2). I don't care what people's agenda is if they do not advocate focribly making others conform to it. Thiel does not, ergo his views are not concerning. If you want to be a follower of his, you can be; if not, dont. If you think people expressing a view without violating someone else's rights is somehow wrong and must be fought, your position is not keeping with the spirit of free speech. 3). The article is advancing the traditional statist viewpoint that the people would be lost without wise overlords; otherwise they would not be advancing the argument that "OH his nonviolent views he isn't forcing on anyone are bad". Such ideas do not need to be fought by anyone, as the good ideas will win without coercion involved. If his ideas are bad, he will fail all by themseves. No need for a hatchet job, ever.

kenjackson 15y ago
"I haven't heard anything good" is not exactly a high bar either. I actually said I'd heard only negative things. But close enough. That's a pretty high bar to me, especially if the feedback isn't a trivially small set. I don't care what people's agenda is if they do not advocate focribly making others conform to it. His goal is very likely to get people to conform to it. If you think people expressing a view without violating someone else's rights is somehow wrong and must be fought, your position is not keeping with the spirit of free speech. You clearly don't understand what free speech means. My vocal opposition to his views and agenda are very much in the spirit of free speech, in fact it lies at the foundation of free speech. as the good ideas will win without coercion involved. If his ideas are bad, he will fail all by themseves. No need for a hatchet job, ever. First, not a hatchet job as far as I can tell. Second poor political ideas can succeed, in the short-term (long enough to kill millions, if not billions at the extremes) if people who think otherwise remain quiet.

kenjackson 15y ago

"I haven't heard anything good" is not exactly a high bar either. I actually said I'd heard only negative things. But close enough. That's a pretty high bar to me, especially if the feedback isn't a trivially small set. I don't care what people's agenda is if they do not advocate focribly making others conform to it. His goal is very likely to get people to conform to it. If you think people expressing a view without violating someone else's rights is somehow wrong and must be fought, your position is not keeping with the spirit of free speech. You clearly don't understand what free speech means. My vocal opposition to his views and agenda are very much in the spirit of free speech, in fact it lies at the foundation of free speech. as the good ideas will win without coercion involved. If his ideas are bad, he will fail all by themseves. No need for a hatchet job, ever. First, not a hatchet job as far as I can tell. Second poor political ideas can succeed, in the short-term (long enough to kill millions, if not billions at the extremes) if people who think otherwise remain quiet.