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I'm not sure you should extrapolate that on all passengers. For me terrible torture-chairs in economy are much more annoying on long flights than some small del

I'm not sure you should extrapolate that on all passengers. For me terrible torture-chairs in economy are much more annoying on long flights than some small delay on takeoff or landing. I once spent 5 hours on plane waiting for takeoff in Frankfurt, but it was due to lack antifreeze and engine heating machines (whatever they are called correctly) and I don't see a way how airline could have influenced that. However, having more space and comfort during that time would definitely be nice.

sandworm101 6y ago
>> I don't see a way how airline could have influenced that. Perhaps they could maintain sufficient de-icing capacity/equipment? I'm in Canada. De-icing is a normal part of flying in the winter. If there is a line/delay for de-icing, it is because the airlines chose not to buy enough. Fyi, de-icing is also a lie told to many passengers as cover for other things. A plane must takeoff within a fixed time after de-icing fluid is applied. So an aircraft wont even line up for it until absolutely every other problem/delay is solved. If they are talking about de-icing delays, and the engines are not yet running, they are covering for something.
rich_sasha 6y ago
Airlines often have some leeway as to those things. They may have more or less bare-bones agreement with the airport, for example. Nice airlines have more planes in reserve, in case one breaks. Budget airlines often arrange their schedules so that they are more efficient, but also more fragile; for example, instead of flying A->B->A->B during the day (and possibly wasting time waiting for the right time to fly), the plane might fly A->B->C->D->A, squeezing more flying hours into the day, but also making potential knock-on effects of a delay worse. And so on. I don't know about antifreeze etc. specifically, but I suspect it is similar.

sandworm101 6y ago

>> I don't see a way how airline could have influenced that. Perhaps they could maintain sufficient de-icing capacity/equipment? I'm in Canada. De-icing is a normal part of flying in the winter. If there is a line/delay for de-icing, it is because the airlines chose not to buy enough. Fyi, de-icing is also a lie told to many passengers as cover for other things. A plane must takeoff within a fixed time after de-icing fluid is applied. So an aircraft wont even line up for it until absolutely every other problem/delay is solved. If they are talking about de-icing delays, and the engines are not yet running, they are covering for something.

rich_sasha 6y ago

Airlines often have some leeway as to those things. They may have more or less bare-bones agreement with the airport, for example. Nice airlines have more planes in reserve, in case one breaks. Budget airlines often arrange their schedules so that they are more efficient, but also more fragile; for example, instead of flying A->B->A->B during the day (and possibly wasting time waiting for the right time to fly), the plane might fly A->B->C->D->A, squeezing more flying hours into the day, but also making potential knock-on effects of a delay worse. And so on. I don't know about antifreeze etc. specifically, but I suspect it is similar.