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It should be noted that nearly the entirety of the increase in murders happened after the BLM protests began in May [1]. Before that, 2020 was on track to be an

by cltby 6y ago

It should be noted that nearly the entirety of the increase in murders happened after the BLM protests began in May [1]. Before that, 2020 was on track to be an unremarkably violent year. Given that this is exactly what happened in Ferguson and Baltimore after those cities’ riots, the increase was sadly predictable. Baltimore’s experience bodes especially poorly for the country; its homicide rate has stayed elevated ever since. The slaughter of an extra 3000-4000 people in the span of seven months is a colossal tragedy. I hope that the cheerleaders of future racial reckonings will do all in their power to prevent similar disasters. [1] https://www.thetrace.org/2020/12/shootings-data-philadelphia-cleveland-chicago-gun-violence/ https://www.thetrace.org/2020/12/shootings-data-philadelphia...

tolbish 6y ago
Protests happen all the time. Why would you point to that instead of COVID, the loss of jobs, and the extreme wealth disparity that ensued?
- the_drunkard 6y ago
  > Protests happen all the time. *country wide protests that result in the burning city blocks, murders, and looting do not happen all the time... I'm not sure why you're being intentionally disingenuous here.
ardy42 6y ago
> The slaughter of an extra 3000-4000 people in the span of seven months is a colossal tragedy. I hope that the cheerleaders of future racial reckonings will do all in their power to prevent similar disasters. How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them?
- the_drunkard 6y ago
  > How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Here's a brief summary of violence that occurred in one day of BLM protests in the state of New York: 3 Buffalo cops run over 1 Bronx cop run over 2 NYPD officers assaulted https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/06/suv-rams-police-in-buffalo-running-over-2-cops-more-officers-injured-in-ny-video.html https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/06/suv-rams-police-in-bu... When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters.
  - ardy42 6y ago
    >>> The slaughter of an extra 3000-4000 people in the span of seven months is a colossal tragedy. I hope that the cheerleaders of future racial reckonings will do all in their power to prevent similar disasters. >> How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? > Here's a brief summary of violence that occurred in one day of BLM protests in the state of New York: > 3 Buffalo cops run over ... > Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. So you're saying the increase in homicides is BLM protesters (or hangers on) murdering cops?
    - the_drunkard 6y ago
      At best you missed the last two sentences of my reply. At worse, you're being intentionally thick headed. >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters.
      - ardy42 6y ago
        >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM?
        the_drunkard 6y ago
        > By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM? Police are a controlled variable, they existed in 2019, 2018, 2017, etc... BLM protests and the associated violence that occurred during the summer months directly coincides with a spike in 2020 murder rates. These protests turned brutally violent after dark; to not acknowledge this is troublesome. While this conclusion may not be in vogue, it maps with the data. And to round this out, COVID and unemployment are likely also factors here... but I'm merely responding to your initial question below. >>>How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Cheers amigo!

by cltby 6y ago

tolbish 6y ago

Protests happen all the time. Why would you point to that instead of COVID, the loss of jobs, and the extreme wealth disparity that ensued?

the_drunkard 6y ago
> Protests happen all the time. *country wide protests that result in the burning city blocks, murders, and looting do not happen all the time... I'm not sure why you're being intentionally disingenuous here.

ardy42 6y ago

> The slaughter of an extra 3000-4000 people in the span of seven months is a colossal tragedy. I hope that the cheerleaders of future racial reckonings will do all in their power to prevent similar disasters. How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them?

the_drunkard 6y ago
> How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Here's a brief summary of violence that occurred in one day of BLM protests in the state of New York: 3 Buffalo cops run over 1 Bronx cop run over 2 NYPD officers assaulted https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/06/suv-rams-police-in-buffalo-running-over-2-cops-more-officers-injured-in-ny-video.html https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/06/suv-rams-police-in-bu... When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters.
- ardy42 6y ago
  >>> The slaughter of an extra 3000-4000 people in the span of seven months is a colossal tragedy. I hope that the cheerleaders of future racial reckonings will do all in their power to prevent similar disasters. >> How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? > Here's a brief summary of violence that occurred in one day of BLM protests in the state of New York: > 3 Buffalo cops run over ... > Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. So you're saying the increase in homicides is BLM protesters (or hangers on) murdering cops?
  - the_drunkard 6y ago
    At best you missed the last two sentences of my reply. At worse, you're being intentionally thick headed. >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters.
    - ardy42 6y ago
      >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM?
      - the_drunkard 6y ago
        > By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM? Police are a controlled variable, they existed in 2019, 2018, 2017, etc... BLM protests and the associated violence that occurred during the summer months directly coincides with a spike in 2020 murder rates. These protests turned brutally violent after dark; to not acknowledge this is troublesome. While this conclusion may not be in vogue, it maps with the data. And to round this out, COVID and unemployment are likely also factors here... but I'm merely responding to your initial question below. >>>How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Cheers amigo!