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Most suicide victims choose the most convenient method available to them and it isn't a deciding factor in their choice to suicide to begin with...
by busterarm 6y ago
Most suicide victims choose the most convenient method available to them and it isn't a deciding factor in their choice to suicide to begin with...
- vlovich123 6y agoGuns are also more reliable with other methods having a less reliable outcome. Additionally, other methods may not be as convenient as “pull trigger and dead” (e.g. someone intentionally OD’ing & then having a change of heart & calling 911).
- chrisseaton 6y agoCan't you say the same thing about any violence? Guns don't cause the violence in the first place. If you didn't have a gun you'd be violent with a knife instead, if you'd already decided to be violent.
- busterarm 6y agoYes, in fact. :)
- chrisseaton 6y agoSo how does 'suicide by gun often gets wrapped into "gun violence" figures than make the US stats look worse than they actually are', which is what this thread was about?
- busterarm 6y agoCertain advocacy groups just report gun-involved deaths as a single statistic. Not if they are homicides or suicides. This should be plainly obvious. What point are you making? Other than perhaps unintentionally backing the pro-gun lobby idea that guns are just tools.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> What point are you making? That if you're worried about the harmful effects of guns, don't discount suicide just because those people aren't harming you.
- busterarm 6y agoBut we've just established that those people are going to kill themselves anyway. This is circular reasoning.
- cratermoon 6y agoMeans Matter https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/